Swiss arms / SAN rifles FAQ

The Swiss Black Special target is wonderfull rifle and heavier than i thought, can wait to shoot it... JP.
 
Loco - I recently had a 553 pistol threaded down here in the USA- the barrel needed to be removed to thread it and the barrel is very hard - it is not a job for the average guy; you will need to find a machinist or gunsmith who has some machining skills

Also expect to buy/replace any tooling he uses as it will most likely ruin the tool because of the barrel hardness- but the good news is it can be done

Good luck
 
Which style of flash hider was on yours? There's 3 different ones available for the CQB length Swiss Arms. A standard one like the fullsizes, for firing off rifled grenades.

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The common one in a lot of the older 552's

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And the one you see on the newer 553's with the upgraded bolt/gas system.

I have the latter, and I assumed that from the different colouring of the flash hider from the barrell that it was threaded on rather than a single piece. I guess I'll have to get in touch with the Swiss Gunsmith at the Shooting Edge.
 
If you have any question the best guy to talk to is Markus at the Shooting Centre in Calgary. He is a Swiss armour and knows the weapon system inside and out.
 
Well I'm considering taking the plunge into a Swiss, but I hear about how bad they can treat the brass. For reloading sake (other than the trouble Steve Janes is having reported in this thread) how badly does it treat the brass. I'm aware to inspect the brass coming out of any gun, but reports on this are anywhere from unreloadable to "should form right out". So how does everyone find that the PE-90 is treating their brass for reloading? For the record I'd like to get it clean and into a die without having to anneal it every time.

About how many uses are you getting from reloads run through the Swiss?

Does it cycle well with reloads?

Thanks :).
 
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I used to feed mine the reloads that would jam up my AR15 and it ate them no problem, it did however bash the brass quite a bit. I was re loadable but you could tell it had been through the swiss rifle even after loading.
 
Still doing some research for accessories and best direction prior to commiting to a rifle.

Thinking for 4x power optics (really like the Vortex viper, but not so picky might even keep my ACOG for the project) flat top target rifles would be the way to go. With low to medium mount rings or QD mounts can a good cheekweld be achieved without the $250 SIG cheekpiece on a flattop (I know there's the canadaammo one, read all the review about it moving or interfiering with the folding stock and I'd rather have a solid piece)?

I know for diopter sights the rear sight must be cleared for proper sight picture and eye relief which pretty well guarantees needing the cheekpiece. Still like the diopter for a great BUIS with a QD optic setup so I'm a little torn on setup.

Opinions? What are people successfully running without the cheekpiece? Cheekpiece really that necessary?

Thanks.
 
For the diopter models the cheek piece will be necessary to get a good cheek weld. With the flat-top model you'll find that it's possible to mount the optic low enough to not need a check piece.
 
target model questions:

Are the back up sights pretty sturdy?

If not, could you install AR sights if you wanted to shoot SANs-scope for a while?

Rear seems like a obvious yes. Not sure about the front.
 
Target models the rear sights are pretty flimsy, it's the front one that's a bit more sturdy, there are pictures around here somewhere

This picture might be airsoft or a SIG556 but it's close enough

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I think it would be great to throw on a good rear sight and go irons for a while. And then back to scope when you want.

Versatility in a $4000 rifle is a good thing.
 
evolture said:
target model questions:

Are the back up sights pretty sturdy?

If not, could you install AR sights if you wanted to shoot SANs-scope for a while?

Rear seems like a obvious yes. Not sure about the front.
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Pic from post 253 in this thread.

Schnibbs said:
The back-up sight gives a surprisingly good sight picture (better than any AK or other open iron sights), comparable to the Lee-Enfield sight.

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This was taken from the PE90 picture thread to give you an idea of sight picture.

nickorette said:
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And finally I remembered seeing this one on the EE a year or so ago, also taken from the PE90 pic thread;

Infantry-Soldier said:
Sorry, not trying to be a pic post whore, but I got the new front sight, thought I'd post...

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Looks like it can be done. Yeah I've been drooling over these for a while now :p.
 
loki_81 said:
Still doing some research for accessories and best direction prior to commiting to a rifle.

Thinking for 4x power optics (really like the Vortex viper, but not so picky might even keep my ACOG for the project) flat top target rifles would be the way to go. With low to medium mount rings or QD mounts can a good cheekweld be achieved without the $250 SIG cheekpiece on a flattop (I know there's the canadaammo one, read all the review about it moving or interfiering with the folding stock and I'd rather have a solid piece)?

I know for diopter sights the rear sight must be cleared for proper sight picture and eye relief which pretty well guarantees needing the cheekpiece. Still like the diopter for a great BUIS with a QD optic setup so I'm a little torn on setup.

Opinions? What are people successfully running without the cheekpiece? Cheekpiece really that necessary?

Thanks.
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With a scope mounted on my flat top, it works just fine as is. If I had a cheekpiece on there it would be much too high to use.
 
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