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The same ones who though the gun registry was a good idea.... Fail.
Algonquin land claim details released
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The same ones who though the gun registry was a good idea.... Fail.
Do you have any experience directly with issues involved with residing on a reservation, or is you statement based solely on your perceptions? I have grown up on a reserve. While it is true that Aboriginals are free to reside anywhere they choose and have access to the same education as the rest of Canadians, there are a lot of issues related to living and growing up on a reserve. Such as integration into society. While this comes natural to most people, I don't believe it comes very naturally to the person who has been born and raised on a reserve. When your parents haven't taught you how to support yourself or ensured that you got an adequate education, you are almost set up for failure. This seems to be just part of the problem associated with residing on a reservation. I won't get into all of the issues because they are off topic, but they are huge contributing factors that most people don't understand. So my point is that most would not know how to live off reserve, let alone be responsible members of society. Sad but true.
So it really has little to do with a measley welfare cheque, but more with actually having the ability or know how to be self reliant. Some of you are probably saying "Boo Hoo", but that's okay, because after reading some of the narrow minded comments posted here I wouldn't expect anything less.
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I have commented on the thread since it began an not once did I make reference to me not liking Aboriginals. I am simply upset that our government has allowed this issue to get this far. To the point where multiple individuals might be losing land they have hunted on for years. You are right some comments on here are narrowminded but people are just very upset. If id be losing my hunting area to people who can hunt anywhere anytime I'd be furious.
Again, I'm frustrated with our government allowing such things years after the "conflict", it's over and done with why dont we just leave it.
Is it not the current government whom are considering granting this particular land claim? Why consider it at all? That in itself is a fault.
I understand that a lot of people are upset about this and similar issues. If the shoe was on the other foot I would be upset also! Now is the time for change. That change rests on the governments shoulders to stop giving in. I am very great full for my current rights as an Aboriginal, and I obviously don't want to lose said rights. However I also believe there comes a time when enough is enough. I also feel for those of you who are losing access to your hunting and fishing grounds. I agree that it is not fair, but it is the government who will be taking away the land. Remember these are the officials that you and I elected!
This land claim is not with the feds...its with the province of Ontario.
My biggest complaint is this never ends. After this is settled there will be another dispute and another and another, the government keeps handing them things to keep them quiet and they keep getting louder. Its time to get a final solution to this but that is probably not possible as I don't think they will ever be satisfied. Pretty convenient for McSquinty to run away just before the SHTF in Ontario as well.
How is it that other immigrants coming from worse 
holes on the planet, with far fewer to no rights manage to not only scrape by, but thrive in Canada?
They come here with little education, suffering their entire lives from abuse by the government, and peers. They come here with little, or nothing but the rags on their backs.
All of them. From the start of this country. Same story.
How do they make it?
That is what the First Nations must ask itself.
I believe the solution must come from within.
The stays quo is clearly not, nor can it ever work.
They can do it. They need direction. They need to ask the right questions.
Anything the government does is immediately attacked as racism from both sides.
holes on the planet, with far fewer to no rights manage to not only scrape by, but thrive in Canada?They come here with little education, suffering their entire lives from abuse by the government, and peers. They come here with little, or nothing but the rags on their backs.
All of them. From the start of this country. Same story.
How do they make it?
That is what the First Nations must ask itself.
I believe the solution must come from within.
The stays quo is clearly not, nor can it ever work.
They can do it. They need direction. They need to ask the right questions.
Anything the government does is immediately attacked as racism from both sides.
Avalonthas
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How is it that other immigrants coming from worse
They come here with little education, suffering their entire lives from abuse by the government, and peers. They come here with little, or nothing but the rags on their backs.
All of them. From the start of this country. Same story.
How do they make it?
That is what the First Nations must ask itself.
I believe the solution must come from within.
The stays quo is clearly not, nor can it ever work.
They can do it. They need direction. They need to ask the right questions.
Anything the government does is immediately attacked as racism from both sides.
u got it
Avalonthas
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I somewhat see you point
But I live in the biggest city in Canada. My parents didn't teach me anything, nor did I really listen so I blame myself. But none the less:
- I can't cook
- I am entirely useless with most tools
- I am socially insular because I was a computer nerd growing up
- Just recently after 25 years did I teach myself to make a cup of coffee in a basic machine as opposed to buying a timmies.
Yet I maintain a good job, and am independent. I did that on my own.
Go for a field trip to Eastern Europe and see how the vanquished got treated there.
Then talk to me about fair. Not treated fairly by the white father?
At least he didn't lean on a rifle whilst making anyone dig their own grave.
The treaties were made a long time ago. Stop the land grabbing already and get on with being a good Canadian.
Funny, I come for a poor raising, there was no land to inherit in my world.
Went out and got a job and got on gettin' a place.
Paid a sh*t pile of taxes in my day too. I don't have a problem paying into the community purse. Someone has to pay for the schools, roads & public services we all enjoy.
Then talk to me about fair. Not treated fairly by the white father?
At least he didn't lean on a rifle whilst making anyone dig their own grave.
The treaties were made a long time ago. Stop the land grabbing already and get on with being a good Canadian.
Funny, I come for a poor raising, there was no land to inherit in my world.
Went out and got a job and got on gettin' a place.
Paid a sh*t pile of taxes in my day too. I don't have a problem paying into the community purse. Someone has to pay for the schools, roads & public services we all enjoy.
I also see your point. Not to get personal, but did your parents maintain a lively hood and contribute somewhat to society? Most of my friends growing up did exactly what they witnessed their parents do. Which in most cases was nothing. Live from welfare cheque to welfare cheque. Which I'm guessing, how they learned to survive from their parents. It seems to be a vicious cycle. Not making excuses though, ultimately every person is responsible for their own well being, and the government isn't helping matters.
Avalonthas
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agreed
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I also agree, well said.
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