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Clobbersauras

Clobbersauras

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Here's my problem: I find that occasionally when I am shooting for speed, I miss my reset and momentarily get a dead trigger until I let out the trigger to reset. I'm not sure if there is a term for what I'm doing, or if I'm just being an idiot, or if the trigger is crap, or what. But it ruins my mojo, especially since most of of what I do is timed now.

My question: Do I just need more practice with the stock trigger on my Bushy lower (yeah, yeah I know it's a crappy Bushmaster)? Or would I benefit from a better trigger? I don't necessarily need a super light pull but I think a shorter reset and a faster lock time would help with the type of shooting I am interested in. I have been reading about the ALG Defense triggers which might offer a good combination of robustness and affordability.

Your suggestions, comments, derision?
 
Oddly enough I believe I read an article in swat magazine where the author was talkin about the exact same thing. His times improved with the use of an aftermarket trigger which I believe was an alg. Take that for what its worth though.

I've shot the alg triggers and they are great. If you're an advanced shooter which I believe you are you likely would benefit from an upgrade.
 
I've been shooting a lot of three gun matches and I have to agree that with a good trigger it will help a lot . I have three AR 's and they all have geisselle SSA-E triggers and there great
 
Personally, I like running the stock triggers in my "run and gun" AR's and a match trigger in DMR AR. The stock trigger affects accuracy at greater distances ofc. I dunno, I like a heavy pull so I can prep for the shot and not risk a ND. Many people call me retarded for this but it works for me lol.
 
Not a problem related only to you.

Standard AR triggers are safe and reliable, but leave much to be desired when it come to really runnning the gun hard and fast.

Look into a 3 gun or competition style trigger kit. For your purposes, I would suggest staying with a two stage instead of the one stage triggers on the market, but there are lots of good options, ie; Timney, Giselle, and Jewell.
 
Kevin M. said:
Not a problem related only to you.

Standard AR triggers are safe and reliable, but leave much to be desired when it come to really runnning the gun hard and fast.

Look into a 3 gun or competition style trigger kit. For your purposes, I would suggest staying with a two stage instead of the one stage triggers on the market, but there are lots of good options, ie; Timney, Giselle, and Jewell.
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Well, I'm not sure I want to spend $200 on a trigger and I want to maintain safety and reliability. I've been doing some reading on the AGL ACT (a Giessele product) and reviews are that it isn't much better than a USGI. Perhaps I'll need to spend the money to get what I need.
 
Clobbersauras said:
Well, I'm not sure I want to spend $200 on a trigger and I want to maintain safety and reliability. I've been doing some reading on the AGL ACT (a Giessele product) and reviews are that it isn't much better than a USGI. Perhaps I'll need to spend the money to get what I need.
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Geissele S3G. Buy once, cry once.
I was considering the ALG as well but thought about how I'd always wonder how much better the S3G was. The S3G is a terrific 3-gun trigger for me - for the distances I encounter at matches (15-150m generally) I wouldn't want nor do I need anything lighter. I've never tried the ALG so I can't say how it compares. It is a sweet trigger, just doooooo it! ;)
 
Ive installed and tried them all, Geiselle DMR or Timney 3lb Skeleton are my favs because of the same reliable trigger resets, not to mention the crisp clean breaks. They become very autoish.
 
If you are not releasing pressure on the lever and the hammer is being held by the disconnect after the shot, no trigger of any style or dollar will cure the problem
 
My personal opinion.

Most aftermarket triggers are better than stock triggers.

Most shooters need to slow down and practice good trigger control instead of throwing in a new trigger. Practice, practice, practice. Every time you shoot, practice that reset until it is second nature.
 
rgv said:
If you are not releasing pressure on the lever and the hammer is being held by the disconnect after the shot, no trigger of any style or dollar will cure the problem
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albertacoyotecaller said:
My personal opinion.

Most aftermarket triggers are better than stock triggers.

Most shooters need to slow down and practice good trigger control instead of throwing in a new trigger. Practice, practice, practice. Every time you shoot, practice that reset until it is second nature.
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I went through a stage (excuse unintended pun) shooting IPSC. I was really pushing myself and wasn't re-setting the trigger on my STI- which has a great trigger. I had to go back and practice ensuring the trigger reset every time. It doesn't happen any more. I agree completely with the above statements. I don't think it's about a better trigger.
 
I find I have this problem with my 1911 trigger (which is really really nice). It has such a short reset that I sometimes misjudge it and just don't reset it at all. One drill I do to rectify it (for myself) is to start slow, working on trigger pull and reset, then gradually speed up. Might help you. But, if you do it for too long, I find I get fatigued and sometimes my finger seizes... unless there's a problem with me?!
 
Rugerman said:
I went through a stage (excuse unintended pun) shooting IPSC. I was really pushing myself and wasn't re-setting the trigger on my STI- which has a great trigger. I had to go back and practice ensuring the trigger reset every time. It doesn't happen any more. I agree completely with the above statements. I don't think it's about a better trigger.
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I'm not going to disagree with you or albertacoyotecaller, I do need more practice. However, the trigger on my rifle is not "great" by any stretch of the imagination. In my estimation it breaks at about 7lbs and has a fair bit of creep, the reset is a horrible crunchy, gritty affair. It's not an STI trigger that's for sure...
 
The issue you are talking about would really suggest you work a little more on getting your trigger work down. I find setting six shot accadence is a really good way to work on trigger timing and proper reset. A new trigger may not fix your problem.

But yeah, working with a :bigHug::bigHug::bigHug::bigHug:ty stiff trigger isn't a lot of fun. I praise the Geissele SSA. Awesome awesome trigger.
 
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