Budget bolt guns, which one to buy.

Wholesale sports today has savage 11/111's on sale today for $306 w/ a scope(aka comes w/ rings and bases worth about $40 and a 3-9x rimfire scope($40-50)). Hell of a deal if you ask me as I've found them to be solid and accurate(and if you hate plastic buy a nice after market stock for $100). I'd avoid the axis even though it's reputedly extremely accurate just because the stock on them is kind of crap with no after market replacements available.
 
Avoid Remington 710 and 770, I see so many of those broken right out of the box! But they were not listed in your list, good on you. They are a piece of %?&?%$
I cannot comment on the others you mentionned however.
 
Freyr_255 said:
Wholesale sports today has savage 11/111's on sale today for $306 w/ a scope(aka comes w/ rings and bases worth about $40 and a 3-9x rimfire scope($40-50)). Hell of a deal if you ask me as I've found them to be solid and accurate(and if you hate plastic buy a nice after market stock for $100). I'd avoid the axis even though it's reputedly extremely accurate just because the stock on them is kind of crap with no after market replacements available.
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The Savage 11 package rifle has a terrible trigger. I replaced mine with a Timney and it made a huge difference. I agree that the stock is junk and should be replaced. The $50 scope will not hold zero with large calibers so...

Once you buy the rifle, replace the trigger, replace the stock & replace the scope & rings, you could have had a Tikka...

Nuff said...
 
Just weighed the Ruger American .243 7.4 lbs, Weatherby S2 .240 Weatherby 9.3 lbs . Same scope ,rings and bases on each gun.
Just can't see my trucks noticing the weight difference betweenem, but i have to totem, it's the Ruger hands down.
 
AWOL said:
The Savage 11 package rifle has a terrible trigger. I replaced mine with a Timney and it made a huge difference. I agree that the stock is junk and should be replaced. The $50 scope will not hold zero with large calibers so...

Once you buy the rifle, replace the trigger, replace the stock & replace the scope & rings, you could have had a Tikka...

Nuff said...
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Only then you have to replace the stock and trigger plus buy bases, rings, and a scope....when you could have the savage with an aftermarket trigger, stock, and scope(Gun 300, stock $120, Scope $250, trigger $100 =$770) for about the price of a tikka and rings to start with(gun $700 bases and rings $50 = $750). So as I said...hell of a deal. And if you're hunting that package works fine out the box as I have a friend who uses one stock and so does my wife.
 
Freyr_255 said:
Only then you have to replace the stock and trigger plus buy bases, rings, and a scope....when you could have the savage with an aftermarket trigger, stock, and scope(Gun 300, stock $120, Scope $250, trigger $100 =$770) for about the price of a tikka and rings to start with(gun $700 bases and rings $50 = $750). So as I said...hell of a deal. And if you're hunting that package works fine out the box as I have a friend who uses one stock and so does my wife.
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Sorry... No need to replace the trigger or stock on the Tikka
 
JJ-65 said:
Just weighed the Ruger American .243 7.4 lbs, Weatherby S2 .240 Weatherby 9.3 lbs . Same scope ,rings and bases on each gun.
Just can't see my trucks noticing the weight difference betweenem, but i have to totem, it's the Ruger hands down.
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Yes this is the only negative that I can think of about a vanguard, they are heavy ####s!! Mine shot good and was solidly built, but you could've used it in place of a ten pound sledge!
 
I once bought a Savage 11 bundle in .308. It sits in the safe and I always reach for a Tikka or Remington. The Savage just doesn't rate.
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I was a Remington guy until I bought one of the newer Savages ( I have four bolt 700's). I find the Savage to be priced well and I have not had an issues with both Savages I own (third on it's way).
 
Dogleg said:
Weatherby Vanguard. Comes with a MOA accuracy guarantee for about $500, but would be a good deal at a higher price.
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I just mounted a scope on a new Vanguard in .240 Weatherby for a local guy, very nice rifle, and quite desirable, had it been chambered for a decent cartridge. If he uses it strictly for caribou and wolves, it will serve him well for many years, but if it becomes his favorite rifle ands he shoots it regularly, I can seen frequent rebarrelings. That has to be the most expensive way there is to achieve 6-06 performance. The action was much slimmer than I recall the S&W 1500 7 mag I played with a few years ago, and the stock follows the Weatherby profile, though somehow a little more reserved, and is a soft textured synthetic.
 
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