The EE World is Ending!

Good luck with that.
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Better get used to your ZERO trader rating.

Good one, love it...even though I don't drink wiskey!:)
 
I may have to account for high tax provinces, as I live in Alberta, and so anywhere else, guys paid a small fortune in tax on their guns.

The GST is the same in every Province - and I have yet to pay PST or HST on the EE. So what gives with that comment? What I have noted is that there are some local pricing which can be higher in different regions (looking at retail price offerings) but not a big deal really. On the EE, it's a buy/sell relationship. If you are willing to pay, then that becomes the market price in your world.

Look at your municipal taxes as an example. Here in Alberta, it is an assessment model based on market values. If some dufus is desperate, and willing to pay $750,000 for a 30 year old small bungalow in Ft. Mac, then it's good for the seller. If two or more dufus buyers do the same thing, then that constitutes "market value" and the price just went up. Look at Garands on the EE. Three years ago, they were averaging $800 to $1,200. Now, they are what, $1,800 because the stocks are shiny with $10 HomeHardware branded varnish. Someone is buying them, because they are usually SPF shortly after posting.

As for me, I try to price to sell so I can feed my "gotta have that gun" habit of mine - because I have limited safe space. If someone writes back that I'm on drugs with my asking price, I will consider what they are prepared to pay and do a little research into what everyone else is prepared to pay. I will either lower, or keep it. If they lowball me, I will thank them for looking or counter them, like on Pawn Stars! It's no big deal really.
 
I like a good deal as much as the next guy and personally I would prefer to make a transaction here, but, when a rifle is listed for $100 more than my local shop is selling them for new, I have to wonder.
Just my opinion
 
The GST is the same in every Province - and I have yet to pay PST or HST on the EE. So what gives with that comment? What I have noted is that there are some local pricing which can be higher in different regions (looking at retail price offerings) but not a big deal really. On the EE, it's a buy/sell relationship. If you are willing to pay, then that becomes the market price in your world.

Look at your municipal taxes as an example. Here in Alberta, it is an assessment model based on market values. If some dufus is desperate, and willing to pay $750,000 for a 30 year old small bungalow in Ft. Mac, then it's good for the seller. If two or more dufus buyers do the same thing, then that constitutes "market value" and the price just went up. Look at Garands on the EE. Three years ago, they were averaging $800 to $1,200. Now, they are what, $1,800 because the stocks are shiny with $10 HomeHardware branded varnish. Someone is buying them, because they are usually SPF shortly after posting.

As for me, I try to price to sell so I can feed my "gotta have that gun" habit of mine - because I have limited safe space. If someone writes back that I'm on drugs with my asking price, I will consider what they are prepared to pay and do a little research into what everyone else is prepared to pay. I will either lower, or keep it. If they lowball me, I will thank them for looking or counter them, like on Pawn Stars! It's no big deal really.

Very valid points
My local shop hase the Savage Axis package for sale for 339 and yet people are asking over 400 + shipping here
 
Yes, I've seen it finally.........a 788 with a ramline stock going for 950 on the EE!!

The seller must know something we don't know!?!? ;)

Brutus has the same thinking of Micheal Moore....posting half truths and not the whole story. Yeah there is a 788 posted for $950 but it also has a bunch of other goodies and the asking price isn't firm either. Go and price these things out and see how quickly it adds up instead of quickly making a spectacle of nothing. Free world buddy...can't afford to play, go to airsoft or something vs #####ing about someone else's dealings.

Here are some prices for reference

788 .308 carbine $450
Nikon Monarch 2.5-10 $539
Ramline stock $100
Burris Rings $40
Burris bases $20

$950 as a feeler price...not so bad..plus he's not firm
 
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I'd be happy to see EE Whining threads locked as soon as they start.

Let the free market prevail - no-one's forced to buy anything, and if you can't afford something, save your pennies.
 
A bit misleading, but we love to complain, don't we?

Let's break it down into the individual components:


Remington Model 788: $450
Nikon Monarch: $350
Original walnut stock: $50
Rings: $25
Extra mag: $25
Shipping: $30

These are just my "out of thin air" values - but I don't think I'm out there. No - I don't want to buy a 788 today, but for someone who does, this would not be the worst deal of the year.

Yes. Exactly.

This is not as bad as the guys who take a fresh run $459 Marlington and do a 60 minute basement gunplumber job smoothing the action and then want $750 for it because it is "Better than new..."
 
Prices are what people are willing to pay. I sold guns with minimal loss after putting few hundred rounds thought. Wasn't a fast sale, but I was in no rush.

There are fantastic deals on the EE, many people sell packages with lots of accessories for great prices. I often then sell the accessories and get the gun I want for minimal $$$. Just ask how I got an ar for $50 and a p226 for $400 ;)
 
The only people on the EE that I can't tolerate, are those that advertise something for a great price, then find out that their price is too low after they have made a deal, and then they try to renegotiate for a higher price. If you make a deal, you honor it, if the first "I'll take it" doesn't immediately send payment, you move on to the next "I'll take it" and sell to him. One individual whose price I met , and told him that he could have asked more and sold the product, backed out of the deal with the first person that met his price, and tried to get me to increase my offer. I refused, but someone else likely met his revised price.
 
The only people on the EE that I can't tolerate, are those that advertise something for a great price, then find out that their price is too low after they have made a deal, and then they try to renegotiate for a higher price. If you make a deal, you honor it, if the first "I'll take it" doesn't immediately send payment, you move on to the next "I'll take it" and sell to him. One individual whose price I met , and told him that he could have asked more and sold the product, backed out of the deal with the first person that met his price, and tried to get me to increase my offer. I refused, but someone else likely met his revised price.

See this is totally out of line. At least a negative feedback is warranted, and IMO, the person should probably get at temporary ban as well, with the warning that if it happens again, they're gone permanently.
 
Yeah and the same time you get buyers who say who PM you after a deal is done saying you can get more and offering more, its an ignorant thing to do. If its sold..keep your comments to yourself and move on. I have had this numerous times.
 
Still wondering why you even went there.

He was a new member, selling his first item, and he obviously had no idea what the gun was worth. I did expect him to honor the deal,but I was trying to help him out in case he planned on listing more merchandise. I like good deals, but I don't like to feel as though I am taking advantage of someone that just doesn't know any better.
 
He was a new member, selling his first item, and he obviously had no idea what the gun was worth. I did expect him to honor the deal,but I was trying to help him out in case he planned on listing more merchandise. I like good deals, but I don't like to feel as though I am taking advantage of someone that just doesn't know any better.

I appreciate your honesty, but just like it's "buyer beware" on the EE, so too is it "seller beware" with respect to pricing. Mentioning that the price could have been higher, but still expecting the seller to honour the deal is either going to result in the seller resenting you or trying to counter-offer... either of which is bad. I think it's best to just keep quiet and let the seller learn through experience --- they should know from the number of "I'll take it!" PMs that their price could have been higher.

My last experience with a seller trying to up the price actually turned out well. He accepted my offer at his asking price and then subsequently replied that he'd received a higher offer from someone else. I immediately said that I wasn't interested in an auction-style bidding war, that it was against the EE forum rules, and that I'd pass on the rifles. He apologized and honoured the deal, and we were both satisfied and have subsequently dealt again a number of times.

I wonder how often it happens that you're the first to meet the seller's asking price, but receive a "Sorry, already sold", because someone else has come along afterwards and offered more than the listing price.
 
Mentioning that the price could have been higher, but still expecting the seller to honour the deal is either going to result in the seller resenting you or trying to counter-offer... either of which is bad.

There is also a third option, that being that the seller honors the deal, but thanks you for being honest by telling them.

My last experience with a seller trying to up the price actually turned out well. He accepted my offer at his asking price and then subsequently replied that he'd received a higher offer from someone else. I immediately said that I wasn't interested in an auction-style bidding war, that it was against the EE forum rules, and that I'd pass on the rifles. He apologized and honoured the deal, and we were both satisfied and have subsequently dealt again a number of times.

Exactly. Sometimes being honest, and simply explaining the EE rules, can result in a very positive experience.
 
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