At Last - A Review of March 8-80x56 Rifle Scope

dizzy said:
DEON mickey mouse? enlighten the board if you will.
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If Deon is only producing 1200 scopes per annum then I think it is obvious they are just dabbling in this area and chances are they will fold this operation. It will be a miracle if they continue with rifle scope development. This is a mickey mouse operation at this point. They are testing the market. Do you get it now?
Personally, I hope they continue and succeed but companies usually cuts their losses and there is a good chance they will cut their's in this area unless demand increases significantly. 1200 scopes per annum is a small number to maintain a dealer network when it comes to the competitive optics market.
 
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They may be a smaller company, you may not like or may not want to buy, you may not like or agree with policies or warranties, but calling them Mickey Mouse is like calling McLaren Mickey Mouse cause they only build a couple thousand cars a year.
 
c4pyro said:
They may be a smaller company, you may not like or may not want to buy, you may not like or agree with policies or warranties, but calling them Mickey Mouse is like calling McLaren Mickey Mouse cause they only build a couple thousand cars a year.
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As a company DEON would be considered a very high risk investment at this point. It may work out( and I hope it does) but the odds are it will fail( again I hope it succeeds).
Also your analogy with McLaren is a poor choice as there are many multi millionaires bidding for their wares. They don't have to try and sell you a car.They are already spoken for( usually years in advance).
 
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Canuck525 said:
As a company DEON would be considered a very high risk investment at this point. It may work out( and I hope it does) but the odds are it will fail( again I hope it succeeds).
Also your analogy with McLaren is a poor choice as there are many multi millionaires bidding for their wares. They don't have to try and sell you a car.They are already spoken for( usually years in advance).
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So who in fact is DEON? Who are the proprietors? What is there background? How far are they backordered? Which militaries are looking at March. You seem to know so much, please why not enlighten the board, rather than just throw out comments. Who is the REAL company? I think once you know the fact you will soon realize your comments, are fairly ignorant or at least demonstrate an ignorance of the facts.
 
dizzy said:
So who in fact is DEON? Who are the proprietors? What is there background? How far are they backordered? Which militaries are looking at March. You seem to know so much, please why not enlighten the board, rather than just throw out comments. Who is the REAL company? I think once you know the fact you will soon realize your comments, are fairly ignorant or at least demonstrate an ignorance of the facts.
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Well you have certainly tipped your hand and shown you have no objectivity and more importantly NO CREDIBILITY when it comes to an unbiased opinion regarding March scopes. You are obviously involved with March products. Thank you once again for the informative post.
 
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It's a pity that this thread has taken the turn that it has. The fact remains that the March product I examined was very high end indeed. Warranty from Deon while not ideal is actually better than that offered by S+B. Cost is more than S+B but not as much as at least some people thought it would be. I'd encourage people to do their own research on this product just like they would on any other.

Fwiw, and in case there are questions about my objectivity, I have no connection to March or any distributor and, in fact, am paying out of my own pocket to ship it back.
 
Thank you for taking your time to complete this review. All of us CGN'ers appreciate it. It sounds to me that both the March and Schmidt and Bender are great scopes and it comes down to personal preference as to which one is "better."
 
lyle1 said:
It sounds to me that both the March and Schmidt and Bender are great scopes and it comes down to personal preference as to which one is "better."
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IMHO, we have two distinct markets for each of these manufacturers at this time............

If I was a Benchrest/Target competitor and needed huge magnification I would be looking at March.........they are proven in this market......

If I was I Tactical/Field shooter/competitor I would be looking at S&B............Their PM-II Series is a proven leader in this market......

What I looked at when buying my S&B was the optical quality compared to optics that I currently owned or have used, and the fact that the U.S. & Canadian military had tested S&B and accepted them for issue optics..........Since I am a Tactical/Field shooter durability is a key factor for me, and I don't need/want huge magnification...........

If March can prove themselves to be able to withstand the rigours of being bumped/dragged around out in the bush I may look at them for the next scope I buy.......

As to cost, if you remember when the S&B 5 - 25 X 56 PM-II Illum. reticle first came out it was around the $3600.00 to $3800.00 mark......depending on who had them at the time..........
 
Mr Tomochan, my apologies, I get a little agitated with detractors who bash a product they know nothing about. Great review and great product. I will shut up as there really is not changing some folks I guess.
 
Excellent review, really enjoyed the information. As it stands now I'm at the Sightron top end scopes and I can only see the next step being the NightForce BR scope as my next level upwards.

As far as the thread goes, its taking the route of a good portion of CGN threads. :popCorn:

ivo said:
Lets talk Limitations, yours in particular. You do not know me, what my education is or my bank account balances so it would be wise for you to shut your mouth rather than spouting off about things that you clearly have no clue about!
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excellent review. You made up my mind. With respect to warranty, sometimes you have to take a leap of faith. I had no warranty on my wife when I married her, and she's still a great girl. Needs the odd repair once in a while, but still is great.
 
To Tomochan, How did the March compare to the S&B at 50x? I'm interested in this range of magnification but have been hesitant to buy one as most scopes lose clarity at the top end of magnification, my thinking was that the March being 80x would still be in mid range so to speak and could potentially be great at 50x.
 
cdn shooter said:
To Tomochan, How did the March compare to the S&B at 50x? I'm interested in this range of magnification but have been hesitant to buy one as most scopes lose clarity at the top end of magnification, my thinking was that the March being 80x would still be in mid range so to speak and could potentially be great at 50x.
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At 50 ( the max of the S+B ) I found the scopes to be too close to call. I was expecting the March to be the better at 50 but I can't truthfully say that my findings confirmed that expectation. Is is, of course, true that the March had room to go whereas that was all she wrote with my S+B.
 
I think Skullboy has it right at this point.
The S&B's definitely rule in tactical/field operations and 50X is way more than desired there. I can't imagine gripping a rifle while checking for possible targets at super high magnification. The image would shake every which way. I've seen where my heartbeat can make a target almost impossible to settle into.
In Benchrest higher powers make sense. Rifle sits on a rest with no human touch while shooters stares at flags and checks mirage. Then a quick slight caress with pinky on a 1oz trigger and rifle free recoils. I only want to see my little target and zero movement.
I'd only consider a March 80X on a top shelf BR gun. They are after a niche market and serve it well.
 
Thanks for the great review. As an F/Tr shooter, the weight savings is another plus over the NF offerings. I'm going to hold off looking through one of these babies, because I'm sure that will be the end of my resolve, and I'll be horse trading away my kids' education fund.
 
dizzy said:
Mr Tomochan, my apologies, I get a little agitated with detractors who bash a product they know nothing about. Great review and great product. I will shut up as there really is not changing some folks I guess.
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No one was bashing the product. I along with others were concerned regarding the warranty. You then decided to make it PERSONAL .Go back and read it from the start . You are the one who started the personal attacks.
 
Tomochan: great writeup - thanks for the time you put into this!

Quick question (not trying to hijack the thread) - what make of tripod is it that you've got your spotting scope mounted on in the pic on the first page?
 
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