CZ 75-B VS 75 Shadow
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The Shadow will have a nicer trigger in SA and DA. The safeties are nicer if you like to ride them, and the added weight will keep the muzzle on target. The adjustable rear makes it easier to place your shots right where you prefer to aim.
Is your #### going to fall off if you don't upgrade, no.
Are you going to magicly go from D to A class just by buying one, no.
If you want one, buy it. You won't be sorry.
Is your #### going to fall off if you don't upgrade, no.
Are you going to magicly go from D to A class just by buying one, no.
If you want one, buy it. You won't be sorry.
I traded my Shadow off as I already had two CZ85 Combats. As a B/C class shooter in Production I personally don't think I have the talent to take advantage of any perceived benefit the Shadow would give me. I have other issues holding me back from making GM than the gun. What it comes down to for most is a like for the Shadow, for some a desire to follow the leader and for others just ego. If you shoot the 75B well and like it, then stick with the gun. If you haven't already put a reduced mainspring in the gun and the trigger will lighten up for you. Put fibre optics on the gun, if you haven't already and if you like them and go shoot the heck out of the gun. If you want a Shadow, sell the 75B and buy the Shadow. Just remember a guy named Vogel won the World IPSC Production title with a virtually bone stock Glock 17. Just a reminder it is the archer not the arrow.
Take Care
Bob
Take Care
Bob
I've got a pre-b 75 and a Shadow. And I've shot a 75b so I can compare it to my 75 and Shadow.
If I were a lot better and practiced exclusively with only one gun I think the Shadow over a 75b would be able to drop my final scores by some small amount like 4 or 5%. The biggest part of this drop would be the idea of being able to slightly speed up the double taps due to the slightly less muzzle rise. But I'd have to practice a HELLUVA LOT to really make that difference show up.
So if the heavier full dust cover on the frame makes up that slight difference then what else does the Shadow bring to the table over your 75b? Well, there's the trigger feel. Folks say that the firing pin block produces glitches in the trigger. The 75b that I got to shoot was nearly new so the trigger did have some slight stiffness compared to my non b 75. But then my 75 has been burnished by shooting thousands of rounds more than the new gun. With use and cleaning the new gun should smoothen up over time. And let's not forget that IPSC rules allow for some slicking up work in terms of polishing the action and swapping springs around. I'll bet that with a little inside slicking work that your 75b could be turned into something that comes pretty darn close to matching at the very least a stock Shadow.
The last difference is the sights. I do find that the glowing fiber front sight really aids me in getting a faster sight picture. But we're allowed to swap out sights in IPSC. So you could upgrade your 75B to Shadow style sights.
On the other hand if you sell your 75B and buy a Shadow the final cost compared to paying for a smith to slick things up and swap the sights is likely a wash.
Or if you do nothing to the gun and use the money you save to buy ammo and practice properly then I'll bet that trigger time speeds you up to where you're better than you would be if you simply traded guns.
By properly practice I mean doing things like draw and fire two shots at a target repeatedly to get used to being accurate with the DA first and SA second shot on the draw. I mean things like hanging two targets and alternating shots at each as fast as you can while still achieving "Alpha" accuracy to get used to moving your shoulders and keeping the sight picture. Do all that and more and you'll gain far more than buying a new gun will provide.
If I were a lot better and practiced exclusively with only one gun I think the Shadow over a 75b would be able to drop my final scores by some small amount like 4 or 5%. The biggest part of this drop would be the idea of being able to slightly speed up the double taps due to the slightly less muzzle rise. But I'd have to practice a HELLUVA LOT to really make that difference show up.
So if the heavier full dust cover on the frame makes up that slight difference then what else does the Shadow bring to the table over your 75b? Well, there's the trigger feel. Folks say that the firing pin block produces glitches in the trigger. The 75b that I got to shoot was nearly new so the trigger did have some slight stiffness compared to my non b 75. But then my 75 has been burnished by shooting thousands of rounds more than the new gun. With use and cleaning the new gun should smoothen up over time. And let's not forget that IPSC rules allow for some slicking up work in terms of polishing the action and swapping springs around. I'll bet that with a little inside slicking work that your 75b could be turned into something that comes pretty darn close to matching at the very least a stock Shadow.
The last difference is the sights. I do find that the glowing fiber front sight really aids me in getting a faster sight picture. But we're allowed to swap out sights in IPSC. So you could upgrade your 75B to Shadow style sights.
On the other hand if you sell your 75B and buy a Shadow the final cost compared to paying for a smith to slick things up and swap the sights is likely a wash.
Or if you do nothing to the gun and use the money you save to buy ammo and practice properly then I'll bet that trigger time speeds you up to where you're better than you would be if you simply traded guns.
By properly practice I mean doing things like draw and fire two shots at a target repeatedly to get used to being accurate with the DA first and SA second shot on the draw. I mean things like hanging two targets and alternating shots at each as fast as you can while still achieving "Alpha" accuracy to get used to moving your shoulders and keeping the sight picture. Do all that and more and you'll gain far more than buying a new gun will provide.
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I think you pretty well covered it. I agree 100%.
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