Talk me into/out of a Browning Hi Power

You didn't pick that one up that the "Fishing Store" in Victoria had on sale? 75th Annie for $799.

Depending on condition of course but price sounds decent. What I eventually hope to get, for :redface:a 2nd time, is what's generally classed as a 'Chinese model'. Shoulder stock and tagent rear sight. I don't know how many firearms I've sold, then after kicking my own butt, ended up purchasing the same again.
Another governing factor, and back to reality, from a gentleman down your way, I've recently purchased a top of the line Kimber 45 auto and four decent .22 target pistols. So, unless I go into a government style mode of 'defecate spending', gun money wise I'm almost tapped,;) at the moment.
 
hey Doryman, I am in the very same boat ( former CF and was issued the BHP) and I was looking at getting my first pistol. of course the BHP came to mind and upon reading this I am convinced its the one for me. I know it ( i know i like it aswell) it fits my hands ( big palms short fingers) and the history speaks for its self. My only issue is where to get it and for the right price. its looking like anywhere will be around the 900 mark for the base model Mark III. I'll be keeping my eyes open for either a good deal or free shipping either one will be the clincher for me to buy. I'll keep you posted if i find that deal.
 
I bought a BHP in the 70s. Installed a adjustable trigger and did a trigger job. With handloads it shot as well as my buddy's S&W52.

It still shoots very well. I think it would be an excellent choice for you.
 
Are you a Classic Car kind of a guy? That's what a BHP is... Very old technology, inferior in many ways to what's available now, but has some intangible nostalgia that makes those who love it, love it a lot. Personally I don't get it, but I probably love things that other people don't, so I don't judge. Personally, I'd go for a Glock for a first pistol. Easy to maintain, reliable and cheap.
 
Are you a Classic Car kind of a guy? That's what a BHP is... Very old technology, inferior in many ways to what's available now, but has some intangible nostalgia that makes those who love it, love it a lot. Personally I don't get it, but I probably love things that other people don't, so I don't judge. Personally, I'd go for a Glock for a first pistol. Easy to maintain, reliable and cheap.

Inferior?
A bullet still exits the barrel the same out of a Glock doesn't it?
Tell me how a 9mm bullet performs differently out of a Glock compared to a Hi-Power? (because of the "technology that you state)
Or is it just cleaver marketing?
Do you really need a lighter firearm?
When I #### the hammer back & fire... it is as crisp as any Glock I have ever tried!... (ok, only two)
I will take the CLASSICS any day of the week compared to any plastic pieces out there.
 
i own one , more on the way tho, it is a classic with curves and lines, not a block,oops glock , it is a great design, a jmb afterall!pleasing to the eye, erogonomic for most, acurate and steel!
you can own a plastic gun too, i do. but bhp is dear to my heart
 
It depends on what you want out of the pistol. Do you want a bullet-launching appliance or an object of firearm lust? The BHP has a certain "### appeal", but they are not as durable as more modern designs, such as the Glock, M&P, HK, etc. Dr. Gary K. Roberts (DocGKR on various forums) has reported a typical service life of around 35,000 rounds. Consider that two of the more high-profile users of the BHP, namely the FBI HRT and the SAS, no longer do so.

If you decide to get one, do so because you like it for subjective reasons, not because you think they are somehow functionally better tools than more modern alternatives.
 
i'd like to get a BHP for my first pistol, but i ended up bought the CZ-75 because is semilar to the BHP & $300 cheaper with the CZ
but i think i'll get one in the future
 
The best thing is to see if you can borrow/rent one and see how it fits your hands and if you like it. I borrowed one and found that it was fussy on the trigger technique. Get it right and the gun was very accurate, get it wrong and I was a foot low at 35'. It was from the 70's and I don't know the history of it either and how well it was maintained.

I ended up buying a surplus Swiss P75/P220 in 9mm and found it easier to shoot. I still like the BHP though, the newer Mark III version fits my hand very well.
 
Browning Hi Power!

After many years of trying different double stack 9mm pistols [in the early days it was the S&W 2nd & 3rd gens and Beretta 92 series] I went to the early versions of the CZ75 as it seemed to fit me best. I then discovered the BHP MkIII and never looked back.

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Liked it so much I eventually scored one in .40 S&W, too.

While I do like the fit/feel of the Glock 17 and S&W M&P I don't currently own either.

For a double stack pistol in 9mm it's the BHP MkIII for me.

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Sorry I haven't followed this whole thread so I don't know exactly where you stand but my suggestion would definitely be to go with the 1911. Ergonomics and pointability can't be beat, you can get a variety of calibers and configurations not to mention aftermarket sights and other parts. And then there's the beauty of the single action trigger which has a huge impact on the accuracy that you can achieve with a pistol. Get the action set up right and I believe if you're committed to training, a well tuned 1911 is the easiest gun to shoot well, develop your skills and you will progress at a faster rate then with any other pistol. Just my opinion.
 
Inferior?
A bullet still exits the barrel the same out of a Glock doesn't it?
Tell me how a 9mm bullet performs differently out of a Glock compared to a Hi-Power? (because of the "technology that you state)

I'll be that guy: Polygonal rifling in Glocks results in marginally higher MV out of similar-length barrels. A whole 20 fps! :dancingbanana:

I digress, some disadvantages:

Because of the slide stop design, if you shoot using a thumbs-forward grip, with supporting hand thumb resting on the frame or slide, you can accidentally lock the slide back fairly easily. This isn't an insurmountable problem, it just requires adjustment.

I found the safety to be quite small and stiff, and located really far back. Maybe I'm just used to the CZ75, but this is what caused me to sell the gun- safety would dig into my thumb. Not a problem I have ever heard of so perhaps I just have mutant thumbs.

I prefer the ergos of the CZ75 in general, both in terms of grip/trigger geometry and in terms of safety/slide stop location.

Obviously nitpicking here though. I think a lot of people get turned off by the price of them new, but honestly the workmanship and finishing was easily the equal of my HK P30S. Very nicely made gun with an outstanding track record.
 
I've been considering a BHP lately and was wondering if anyone would be able to say if it's better to get a mkIII or the older mkII design. Advantages or disadvantages for either?
 
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