Shot dog, thought it was a wolf

sulisa said:
Yep, but if buddy's out hunting, and dogs come running through his section, it's pretty likely that'll make for a deer-free hunting environment very quickly. Unless he likes just hanging out in trees anyway, I'd say the dogs would ruin his hunt.
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If you believe this you, yourself by giving up have ruined your own hunt....Deer are extremely territorial. If you see a dog wander through, chances are it has done so before, and the deer are still there...They may elude the dog, but only to come back in short order..Even if the dog chases through the area, it is only chasing ''a'' deer (doe, and two fawns at most) not ''all'' the deer...It will disurb the deer for a short time, but thats to your benifit...The deer will wander a bit and settle back into regular routine...Even the deer that was chased will be back....

I have had dogs go through, as well as people, and shot deer shortly after...I like when things get stirred up. It puts the deer off thier game just for a that short while, until they settle back in...To get up and leave after a dog, or people go through you are only hindering your own hunt..Sit tight, while things settle down...You will be surprised!!
 
bellero said:
I'm a dog lover but I tend to side with the hunter on this one. If you have a "wolf like" dog, or any dog for that matter, running loose in a field where hunting take place, don't be surprised if it get shot at.
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If you are out with a gun, you are completely responsible for any projectile that comes out of it. That means you are always responsible for positively identifying your target. There is no excuse for, or defence of, failing to positively identify your target, and ensure there is a safe backstop. Failure to do so can result in consequences ranging from fines on the personal level, to further restrictions and bans for everybody else on the national level. Shooting at a dog because it is in a hunting area is irresponsible behaviour and the sort of thing antis dream about sending to the media as it paints gun owners as unethical, anti social and as having a cavalier disregard for others.

...and what would you do if an angry landowner, or other hunter appeared shortly after you shot his dog on the grounds that "you shouldn't be surprised...?"
 
Not to get Off Track here: I`ve read about someguys that have had a farm dog come to a coyote call. I hunt coyotes on a regular basis, never had a farm dog come to it, but if there is a cow anywhere within earshot of that call......they are coming. Sometimes it gets frustrating cause the coyotes will be in amongst them.
 
Derek V said:
an akbash isnt the type of dog that gets chained anyway, they are livestock guardian dogs. breed to protect livestock like sheep from coyotes are wolves.
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Yup. We have a sheep farm nearby that has two of them. The dogs live with the flocks, 24/7.

They are unmistakable, and look nothing like a coyote. In any way.

Totally unjustifiable shooting.
 
Chuckbuster said:
Shooting at a dog because it is in a hunting area is irresponsible behaviour and the sort of thing antis dream about sending to the media as it paints gun owners as unethical, anti social and as having a cavalier disregard for others.
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So true. A few years ago in our rural area some retard shot a family pet. The owners went to the media and began an aggressive lobby to have hunting banned in the area. The main reason they weren't successful is because they did not live in the township.

Around here about the fastest way to earn a reputation as a scumbag is to shoot someone's dog unless you can prove it was attacking your livestock, pet or a person. Better hope you don't get found out. Word gets around fast in a small town.

Incidentally about the fastest way to earn a reputation as a good neighbour and friend is to return someone's dog when it wanders off.
 
Dukester said:
Don't be surprised if you get fined $6,000 and look like an idiot in the paper, like the OP fluffy shooter.
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did I say I'd shoot fluffy???

No I didn't, so there is no reason for me to have a 6000$ surprise.

what I did say is that if one is concerned for their dogs well being they would ensure that it is not roaming and this is still the truth no matter how much you wish it wasn't.
 
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the spank said:
Robert Goudreault?? LMAO!! I am not surprised in the least. he is originally a hometown boy from our neck of the woods. One season for the duck opener we all had permission to hunt on the same private property. The ducks were feeding in the barley and many were going into a cattle pen to water in the puddles.He built himself a blind IN THE CATTLE PEN from hay bales the evening before the hunt. The next morning he showed up to discover the cows had eaten his blind then came after us on the other end of the farm looking to fight, accusing us of tearing down his blind! I won't tell you the comments from my hunting partners aimed at his stupidity based on his ethnic background because it would get me an infraction but I am sure you can figure it out. Man we have laughed for over 20 years about that day....., wait until I send them this bit of news...LMAO!!!Laugh2Laugh2Laugh2

Oh and BTW in case anybody is interested this guy is the owner of Woods and Water Guidng and Taxidermy. He advertises in OOD.
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I have had similar run ins with the guy. He is a complete idiot.

He regularly trespasses and breaks numerous FWCA laws. He's been charged numerous times.
 
caustic said:
not really , leash might be the wrong word but chained up is definitely what should happen.

end of the day if you want ensure that your dog will live a long life don't let it roam.
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I don't think you've ever been on a farm. Chaining a dog of this type would completely defeat the point of having it. It's a working dog and needs to roam with the herd to do its job.
 
caustic said:
did I say I'd shoot fluffy???

No I didn't, so there for no reason for me to have a 6000$ surprise.

what I did say is that if one is concerned for their dogs well being they would ensure that it is not roaming and this is still the truth no matter how much you wish it wasn't.
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I bet when this guy got caught he sounded a LOT like this.
 
caustic said:
did I say I'd shoot fluffy???

No I didn't, so there for no reason for me to have a 6000$ surprise.

what I did say is that if one is concerned for their dogs well being they would ensure that it is not roaming and this is still the truth no matter how much you wish it wasn't.
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No you did not. Not here at least. However...

caustic said:
I'd be polite give her the warning about the dangers that exist for the dog and advise her that she should keep the dog on her property buy whatever means she can. I've seen the neighbors dogs chasing deer around my family farm and would not hesitate to take them out.
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http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?674054-Visit-from-the-RCMP-re-dumped-carcasses&p=6423660&highlight=dog#post6423660
 
There's some rule about not posting statements that lead to senseless regionalism. So I'm just going to brag and say that it's good to live where I do. My German Shepherd roams my farm yard and people who hunt coyotes (including me) don't shoot other peoples' pets.

Too bad about the dog; I'd be heartbroken if someone shot my Shepherd.

I am frequently disappointed in the Ministry of the Environment's fines. There's a guy who got caught with 6 unlicensed deer heads in his garage in my neck of the woods, and all he got was a 2 year hunting rights suspension. They didn't even take away his guns. This guy who shot the dog deserves at least a few year's suspension for not verifying his target. IMO.
 
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All the people that think the dog should have been tied up/not let free/its not the hunters fault, etc..... i believe are wrong in my honest opinion. If you are hunting and accidentally shoot the wrong animal you are hunting for then you shouldn't be hunting! Shooting that dog while coyote hunting is like shooting a bull moose saying that you thought it was a calf. Its BS. The fact that the dog of subject was shot was not mistaken identity - it was an itchy trigger finger.

Also, Dogs like to run, especially hunting dogs - it happens. No owner is perfect enough to say that in their years they have never had one of their dogs run off for at least a few hours. It happens. To say that the dog had it coming or that its the dog owners fault is ridiculous.

If my dog took off and someone had mistaken it for a coyote and shot it and told me it was an accident - I would be insulted that someone thinks I am that much of an idiot to believe that bullsh_t.

No efing way that guy in the article should have pulled the trigger - it was pure lust to kill.

And one more thing.
All you people who feel that the dog should have been chained up, etc... can just stay in the efing city and not bother coming hunting out in the country and disregarding all the rules that real conservationists and hunters obey.
 
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Waterfowler said:
I have had similar run ins with the guy. He is a complete idiot.

He regularly trespasses and breaks numerous FWCA laws. He's been charged numerous times.
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Yes, he definitely rode the short bus to school. We had a lot of laughs at his antics in a few short years of hunting before he booked it out of the north to head south to work.....I wish I had pictures of some of the vehicles and get-ups he had while hunting. We could all share a good laugh at his expense. One time he tried to sick his dog on my buddies dog while we were out hunting because were hunting the same field he had permission for as well?? What a maroon! I sent this latest bit of news to my buddies and they all responded pretty much the same saying "some things never change"!
 
sharp shooter said:
All the people that think the dog should have been tied up/not let free/its not the hunters fault, etc..... i believe are wrong in my honest opinion. If you are hunting and accidentally shoot the wrong animal you are hunting for then you shouldn't be hunting! Shooting that dog while coyote hunting is like shooting a bull moose saying that you thought it was a calf. Its BS. The fact that the dog of subject was shot was not mistaken identity - it was an itchy trigger finger.

Also, Dogs like to run, especially hunting dogs - it happens. No owner is perfect enough to say that in their years they have never had one of their dogs run off for at least a few hours. It happens. To say that the dog had it coming or that its the dog owners fault is ridiculous.

If my dog took off and someone had mistaken it for a coyote and shot it and told me it was an accident - I would be insulted that someone thinks I am that much of an idiot to believe that bullsh_t.

No efing way that guy in the article should have pulled the trigger - it was pure lust to kill.

And one more thing.
All you people who feel that the dog should have been chained up, etc... can just stay in the efing city and not bother coming hunting out in the country and disregarding all the rules that real conservationists and hunters obey.
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ive lived on a farm for a good bit in the same neck of the woods as you we kept the dogs on 100ft chains why because they liked to go onto other peoples land or chase the truck down the road and hop in the back the good ones never did this they liked to stay around the buildings and on the property if your dog likes to roam around and go on other peoples property chain it plain and simple if it stays where it should let it free
 
antiqueguy said:
ive lived on a farm for a good bit in the same neck of the woods as you we kept the dogs on 100ft chains why because they liked to go onto other peoples land or chase the truck down the road and hop in the back the good ones never did this they liked to stay around the buildings and on the property if your dog likes to roam around and go on other peoples property chain it plain and simple if it stays where it should let it free
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agreed 100% , this has been my experience as well.
 
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