I was talking to my dad today about my Grandfathers service in WWII(pics)update

Fantastic items, its great to see that they have stayed in the family!



Yes you can get both. For WWI records, you go to this website. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php enter in the information, find the individual, and there will be a link on how to order the file. WWII records are a little more tricky as they have not been released to the public. To request the service file of an individual who is still alive, you need their signature. If they have been deceased for less than twenty years, you need to provide a proof of relationship and a proof of death. If they have been deceased for more than twenty years, all you need to do is provide a proof of death. The instructions and form are available here: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html If you are interested in obtaining a WWII service file, I'd recommend doing it sooner than later as the wait times are about five to six months at the moment.

Thank you for that information, I'm going to see if my mother will submit the request since it will be easier to prove relationship.
 
Those are some very cool items!

You should see if you can get a wall-mount plaque for the sword made. My brother is an officer and has one for his ceremonial "Weapon."

something like this.
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That aluminum box would have been quite a bit more exciting back in the day, I believe. As late as 1890s, aluminum was extremely rare, difficult to produce, and as expensive as silver! By WW1 it was not quite as rare, but still not something every family would have in the house :)

Thanks for sharing
 
I read that note 4 times before posting an i missed the typo...

There's a little lesson in how expectations can shape perception and how we can miss the obvious. We all do it.

I plan to do that. Do you think i can get my Grand fathers as well ?

I believe you can, but I'm not sure.

In the meantime, you definitely need to talk to your GF ASAP, take a digital voice recorder and record it all. I suppose you should ask him if you can first, but some older people are particularly inhibited by such things, so you'll have to make that call. After you get the records, you'll want to go back over them with your GF in case they jog his memory.

Of course if your GF had done that with his dad you'd have far more material than you do, but 99% of families don't until it's too late.

Think of this as familial "rescue archaeology"; like excavating a site in a month before they build a highway through it. In this case you don't know how long you have, but I can tell you from personal experience that if you delay, you will be sorry.

Other relatives may have some of your GGF's and GF's artifacts; you should find out and photography or scan objects, letters, photos etc. Get photos or objects ID'd ASAP by anyone old enough to do so. Promise the other relatives a DVD with all the materials you have recorded on it in exchange for letting giving you access. Some people are funny about this stuff as you probably know. You may be lucky and none of that may apply to your family!

Good luck with it and I think it will probably be a heck of a learning curve, but one you will find enormously worthwhile. Not only you, but those who come after you.
 
I believe you can, but I'm not sure.

In the meantime, you definitely need to talk to your GF ASAP, take a digital voice recorder and record it all. I suppose you should ask him if you can first, but some older people are particularly inhibited by such things, so you'll have to make that call. After you get the records, you'll want to go back over them with your GF in case they jog his memory.

Of course if your GF had done that with his dad you'd have far more material than you do, but 99% of families don't until it's too late.

Think of this as familial "rescue archaeology"; like excavating a site in a month before they build a highway through it. In this case you don't know how long you have, but I can tell you from personal experience that if you delay, you will be sorry.

Other relatives may have some of your GGF's and GF's artifacts; you should find out and photography or scan objects, letters, photos etc. Get photos or objects ID'd ASAP by anyone old enough to do so. Promise the other relatives a DVD with all the materials you have recorded on it in exchange for letting giving you access. Some people are funny about this stuff as you probably know. You may be lucky and none of that may apply to your family!

Good luck with it and I think it will probably be a heck of a learning curve, but one you will find enormously worthwhile. Not only you, but those who come after you.

Unfortunately for me my GF has been gone since 1997, but i do have family members that are huge into family history. I actually now have some pictures of my GGF in his uniform and more information on the way about my Gf and great Uncle. My GF never wanted to talk about the War, and being 17 when he passed I wasn't to aware of the significance of Family history.

Heres a pic of my GGF
4th from the right bottom row
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Looks like they're in front of hanger doors, maybe on a course in the UK?

yes, the info on the picture it is in Great Yarmouth UK in Dec 1918, Is RAF 228 Squadron

"The squadron formed on 20 August 1918 at Great Yarmouth during the re-organisation of the former RNAS stations of Nos. 324, 325 and 326 Flights" "No. 228 Squadron RAF was a unit that during the greatest part of its existence flew over water, doing so in World War I, World War II and beyond, performing anti-submarine, reconnaissance and air-sea rescue tasks" According to wiki

I'm Learning lots
 
You realize that this means that your GGF flew in some of the early wood and fabric biplanes, right? Perhaps expand your research to include the history of the squadrons mentioned to get some idea of what he was flying and what activities he was involved in. Pilots also kept their log books when discharged so if you have the stuff you do then perhaps the log book for his flying is around somewhere as well.

One of my far too many hobbies is model aircraft, and by extension the history of full size aviation. So my eyes lit up wide when I saw the RNAS/RAF connections you've posted already.
 
You realize that this means that your GGF flew in some of the early wood and fabric biplanes, right? Perhaps expand your research to include the history of the squadrons mentioned to get some idea of what he was flying and what activities he was involved in. Pilots also kept their log books when discharged so if you have the stuff you do then perhaps the log book for his flying is around somewhere as well.

One of my far too many hobbies is model aircraft, and by extension the history of full size aviation. So my eyes lit up wide when I saw the RNAS/RAF connections you've posted already.

I was talking to my uncle yesterday and he told me he has the log Books for my Great Uncle - RCAF WWII, and he things for my GGF. I'm going out to visit him In Las Vegas in April, so I can see first hand and scan them. My uncle has already scanned all of the pictures going back to 1895 of my family...so he is burning me a DVD with them on it...I cant wait to see them!!! On a side note i requested my GGF Service record form the National Archives in London.
 
yes, the info on the picture it is in Great Yarmouth UK in Dec 1918, Is RAF 228 Squadron

"The squadron formed on 20 August 1918 at Great Yarmouth during the re-organisation of the former RNAS stations of Nos. 324, 325 and 326 Flights" "No. 228 Squadron RAF was a unit that during the greatest part of its existence flew over water, doing so in World War I, World War II and beyond, performing anti-submarine, reconnaissance and air-sea rescue tasks" According to wiki

I'm Learning lots

So this would so soon after the amalgamation of the RAF and RNAS that common uniforms had not yet been issued. Notice one guy still has the old "maternity suit" tunic that was designed to keep the wind out by buttoning at the side.

Good work on the scans. You never know what happens so get as much of it together as soon as you can.
 
Updates

So i finally received the photos from my uncle n the us. Its amazing the history that im finding. We have my great grandfathers log book, my great uncles log book(RCAF. More pics, and anews articles including one about my grandfather I thought i'd post a few as i have not been through it all yet. I have also requested my great grandfathers and my grandfather service record.

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