No, by keeping them, I can stil ltake my restricted guns out to shoot them - lol. The NR paperwork was burned in a wickan ritual (no, not really, but they WERE burned).
showing your rifles aren't restricted.
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No, by keeping them, I can stil ltake my restricted guns out to shoot them - lol. The NR paperwork was burned in a wickan ritual (no, not really, but they WERE burned).
Except that the restricted/non-restricted barrel length threshold (for semi-auto centre fires) is 18.5 inches, not 18 inches. 18 inches is the minimum length you may cut a barrel down to before it becomes prohibited.
Beyond that, the problem here lies with ill-informed officers, loads of non-restricted AR look-a-likes, and the continuing use of bad terminology like "all handguns are restricted, along with some military type rifles".
The XCR, ACR, SU-16, Swiss Arms rifles, SR-22 and other tactical .22s, etc all vaguely resemble AR-15s, and failing that they would strike an officer as a "military type rifle" that would prompt him to investigate further. Other non-traditional firearms such as the Tavor, RFB and so on may run into the same issues.
Just like with your 10 round pistol mags, it is wise to be pro-active when it comes to this type of thing. Carry the appropriate legal documents with you, including your gun's FRT number. I keep them in my glovebox and a copy in each gun case. It's pretty cheap insurance. We shouldn't have to, of course. But I'd rather present the officer with a piece of paper that reassures him than have my guns siezed only for them to discover I was right 3 weeks later.
Until our modern guns become more commonplace, this is our situation. Remember to be courteous when dealing with officers, and don't forget to offer them the opportunity to try the gun out. Shake hands and leave a favourable impression.
Who says they could get away with seizing them? Dont get me wrong, I do try to educate, especially when I run into cops at the range and I've got my antique Colt out. but when I'm out in the bush with my XCR, or my antique, I will not be harassed by someone to lazy to do his, or her job. We as gun owners in this country are way too passive about our rights.
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Under the Firearms Act, the burden of proof is on the accused. I remember when I did my restricted, my instructor was swearing up and down he'd never take his SL-8 hunting because of the potential for trouble. He wouldn't budge on it, even though I said I take my Swiss Arms and XCR-L hunting comfortably with the FRT numbers handy. A guy behind me piped up and said that his friend's tacticool SKS was siezed and destroyed before he was able to prove that it was non-restricted to the police's satisfaction.
Was he right? He sure was. Were the cops completely out of line taking his gun on mere suspicion? Definitely. Did he go to bed comfortably without his gun in his safe knowing that he "wasn't passive about his rights" and "wouldn't be harassed"? Yeah... I doubt it.
Did he decide his $350 SKS was worth taking the cops to court over? I doubt that too.
The story could be pure BS, granted, but I think I believe it. I really don't see how cops rolling their eyes and thinking "great, another belligerent gun owner" every time they hear shots ringing out from some old gravel pit while they roll up to check things out does us any good.
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You are a wise man Jager. We (shooters, hunters, LEO, CO's, etc.) are all in this together. Being prepared with a few pieces of paper and a good attitude benefits us all in so many ways.
Well you can leave your guns at home, or you can do as I do and legally enjoy your property, I've never been hassled hunting with my XCR, nor have I been arrested for being in the bush with my 130 + year old Colt at my side. Do I take them out every time I go out? No, do I stop at the side of the road and shoot up a gravel pit? No. Am I an 
with a temper problem and a healthy disrespect for authority? No again buddy. I in fact do carry the appropriate paperwork for my antique with me and as far as the paper (When we needed it)for any of my non restricted hunting rifles go, any time I've run into a C.O. they never asked to see them, just my tags, which is usually the way it is here in Sunny Alberta.
with a temper problem and a healthy disrespect for authority? No again buddy. I in fact do carry the appropriate paperwork for my antique with me and as far as the paper (When we needed it)for any of my non restricted hunting rifles go, any time I've run into a C.O. they never asked to see them, just my tags, which is usually the way it is here in Sunny Alberta.
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They are invalid...they are old, expired and can easy be made up within a few minutes on a computer. Should I make a fake (old) LGR slip for my AR and say here...this little slip (that no longer is valid) says its okay!!! Both me and the officer would get in trouble for that. Do you walk into a gym with an expired membership from another location and tell them its all good? I hope not...
...and if ANYTHING it is showing cops that the LGR "was/is useful" to them and that they should require to get it back to save them time/effort. Good job!!!
KNOW the regs. knowing the FRT # may help and telling the officer where he can verify this info as well. BE POLITE, don't talk down to them and you shouldn't have any issues...might take a few minutes but in reality...how many of you just "bump into a cop" while out in the bush? How many of you even shoot anywhere other then a range or your own land? Once the cop has learned something in a nice, respectful manor by an educated gun owner...he now knows for later events.
THAT is what the "cool dudes" do.
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