Norinco .223 ammo with brass case.
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Steve Janes
CGN frequent flyer
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- Calgary/Ontario
I have run about 2500 rounds of this ammo through my Swiss 1in7 twist.
It's decent plinking ammo, about 3-4 MOA ammo. Federal American Eagle is more accurate. I have come across the odd undersized projectile. Maybe 5 rounds out of the 2500 or so I have shot so far have key holed at close range. I started a thread about it and the general consensus was because I couldn't get it to happen with any other ammo, and it refused to do it consistently, most thought it was the cheap QC on the chinese product, and an undersized projectile in the odd round. Besides that, it's been a good plinking ammo but due to the QC issues I won't be buying more of it after I finish this crate.
It's decent plinking ammo, about 3-4 MOA ammo. Federal American Eagle is more accurate. I have come across the odd undersized projectile. Maybe 5 rounds out of the 2500 or so I have shot so far have key holed at close range. I started a thread about it and the general consensus was because I couldn't get it to happen with any other ammo, and it refused to do it consistently, most thought it was the cheap QC on the chinese product, and an undersized projectile in the odd round. Besides that, it's been a good plinking ammo but due to the QC issues I won't be buying more of it after I finish this crate.
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Steve Janes
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary/Ontario
Yup, talking out of your arse for sure
AE consistently shoots better than Norinco, reports have the Norc at 3-4 MOA ammo while peole are getting 1.5-2" groups with AE 55gr.
I have also heard about the odd ruptured case in the Norinco (hasn't happened to me), where as the AE is very reliable. Someone just posted a "Steel Cased VS Brass Cased" thread awhile ago, and the guys doing the testing ran 10,000 rounds of AE without a single stoppage or ammo issue. The other ammo (none was norc, they were all steel) all had issues. I know this says nothing about Norc, but it shows the reliability of the AE that I have not experienced with the Norc.
I have fired about 5000 rounds of AE in the last 2 years without issue. The Norinco, I have run about 2500 and have experienced some issues. I'm just trying to be honest and answer the OP. I seem to remember my Old man had some issues running Norinco in his XCR too. The overall length is quite a bit more than your average 55gr round and we thought that was why it was causing malfunctions, but he stopped shooting norc after that so we left it at that. Others report it works fine in there XCR's. But I don't know of anyone who has regular issues with American Eagle.
Basically what I am saying is the Norinco is good to go, but don't expect more than 3-4MOA and Standard Chinese Quality Inspection. If you can handle this, then it's the cheapest ammo in Country, ENJOY! But American Eagle IS higher quality ammo, and it shows
Runningfool
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- SW Ontario
Yup, talking out of your arse for sure
AE consistently shoots better than Norinco, reports have the Norc at 3-4 MOA ammo while peole are getting 1.5-2" groups with AE 55gr.
I have also heard about the odd ruptured case in the Norinco (hasn't happened to me), where as the AE is very reliable. Someone just posted a "Steel Cased VS Brass Cased" thread awhile ago, and the guys doing the testing ran 10,000 rounds of AE without a single stoppage or ammo issue. The other ammo (none was norc, they were all steel) all had issues. I know this says nothing about Norc, but it shows the reliability of the AE that I have not experienced with the Norc.
I have fired about 5000 rounds of AE in the last 2 years without issue. The Norinco, I have run about 2500 and have experienced some issues. I'm just trying to be honest and answer the OP. I seem to remember my Old man had some issues running Norinco in his XCR too. The overall length is quite a bit more than your average 55gr round and we thought that was why it was causing malfunctions, but he stopped shooting norc after that so we left it at that. Others report it works fine in there XCR's. But I don't know of anyone who has regular issues with American Eagle.
Basically what I am saying is the Norinco is good to go, but don't expect more than 3-4MOA and Standard Chinese Quality Inspection. If you can handle this, then it's the cheapest ammo in Country, ENJOY! But American Eagle IS higher quality ammo, and it shows
My rifle shoots both the AE and the Norinco with the same 100yd accuracy, no discernable difference out of my 1:7 twist barrel. I found the Norinco 2 thou longer than the AE which I also thought was causing me the occasional feeding issues - I changed my mag followers and haven't had a feeding issue since.
I've reloaded the Norinco brass without issue. It appears to be annealed and the primer pockets are not crimped.
Buy the Norinco ammo for what it is, cheap ammo that will go bang and hit a reasonably sized target.
I bought a few crates and never once would I expect it to be match ammo. It is what it is, cheap fodder. I also enjoy the irony of buying ammo that will finance China's invasion of Canada, and then defending Canada with the ammo used to finance its invasion.
I bought a few crates and never once would I expect it to be match ammo. It is what it is, cheap fodder. I also enjoy the irony of buying ammo that will finance China's invasion of Canada, and then defending Canada with the ammo used to finance its invasion.
sithinside
Regular
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
I also enjoy the irony of buying ammo that will finance China's invasion of Canada, and then defending Canada with the ammo used to finance its invasion.
Glad someone else thinks this too! Hah!
I also enjoy the irony of buying ammo that will finance China's invasion of Canada, and then defending Canada with the ammo used to finance its invasion.
I live in the Yukon and see ore filled trucks roll through town multiples times a day. It is a lot of copper, some iron, and a bit of tin if I remember correctly. And it all goes to China. I find it kind of zen to be part of the metals trip aropund the world, only to have it come back, and get shot back into the ground where it came from.
Circle of Life sort of thing.
Someone figured it cost them 28cents per rd to load, I figure 15c powder,12c bullet, 3c primer so mine's around 30c per rd. Bought a few cases from Canada Ammo for $419 + 50 tax, works out to 29c per rd. So for now I'll just collect brass until I'm running low and that won't be for a long long time.
