How hard would it be to find this stock?

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I am looking at purchasing a BSA double barrel that someone previously fixed a random stock to. I dont know if maybe the original one broke but it doesnt have the original one. The stock originally was the ones in the pics. What are my options in finding one? Would it just be easier to have one made? What would that cost me in the end?

The thing that keeps me comming back to the gun is that it has the original leather case aswell as the receipt from purchase from the original owner.

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Finding a stock may be a bit of a chore. Maybe you could luck into a complete parts gun. As far as making one, I don't know about that. I think the cost to have a stock made would be more than the gun's value. I always hear double gun lovers say you are looking at $2000.00 and up to have a stock made by a stockmaker. Of course it depends on how fancy the blank is and if you want the checkering done properly.
 
An original replacement will be all but impossible to find. In my experience if you happen on a parts gun the wood is usually toast. The replacement that is on it doesn't look too bad though you can't really see the quality of the inletting and the fit around the tang in the photo. Looks like a very nice upland gun, in my opinion the English have always made the finest doubles with a very few exceptions.
 
IF a decent stock set could be found, it would likely be in the UK, salvaged from a gun that was dismantled. Miracles do happen, but the odds are long. Restocking is likely the ony reasonable option.
If the gun is cheap enough, you might want to just sit on it against the day something turns up. The BSA is a good quality factory produced British double.
 
tiriaq said:
IF a decent stock set could be found, it would likely be in the UK, salvaged from a gun that was dismantled. Miracles do happen, but the odds are long. Restocking is likely the ony reasonable option.
If the gun is cheap enough, you might want to just sit on it against the day something turns up. The BSA is a good quality factory produced British double.
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I agree, probably the best option is in the UK. I did a quick search of various sites in the UK but found nothing right now as far as stocks. BSA's do come up for sale here once in awhile . I would sit on it awhile as well. While the BSA shotguns are indeed good quality, their value unfortunately does not warrant the cost of a restock, economically speaking. You could probably find a low grade piece of wood and have someone fashion you a stock but you wouldn't be any further ahead than you are now.
 
These 2 pics are not of the stock that is on it now. The one that is on it is a pistol grip style. I may try making a stock for it myself. The hardest part would be to do where it mates to the receiver, the rest is fairly straight forward. I got a price on a set being made out of walnut at $3000
 
I have a similar project on the bench right now. It is an elderly AH Fox double, which is really hurting. Boyds does list an AH stock, but the dimensions aren't the same. I have a good supply of walnut, albeit straight grained, and will eventually make a new butt. The forend wood is there, but it needs to be replaced as well.
 
Bring the original stock to any carpenter and they'll make a new one. Mine is working on a broken forearm right now and the fix will cost me just $50.
 
Not ANY carpenter, maybe a furniture or cabinet maker who is used to intricate detail. I've met one or two who would probably take it on as a challenge, but it would not be top priority and they would not be familiar with cast for left or right handedness. Or you could go to "any" carpenter if you are happy with the woodgrain of a 2x6 piece of spruce ;)
As mentioned above, getting a second "parts" gun would be a good idea. You'd likely still have to fit the stock to the action.
All the best in finding some new furniture!
 
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ss1980 said:
Bring the original stock to any carpenter and they'll make a new one. Mine is working on a broken forearm right now and the fix will cost me just $50.
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You have got to be JOKING!?!?!?! Laugh2


Even funnier than the "steam scratches out of urethane stock finish" Laugh2


Do you know what a "carpenter" is?
 
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I'm glad I'm giving you positive emotions :)

For educational purposes -- A carpenter (builder) is a skilled craftsperson who works with timber to construct, install and maintain buildings, furniture, and other objects.

My carpenter deals with gun stocks as well.

Mark Dube said:
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You have got to be JOKING!?!?!?! Laugh2


Even funnier than the "steam scratches out of urethane stock finish" Laugh2


Do you know what a "carpenter" is?
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Thank you for the insight. At least one non-judgemental person here :)
Carpenters work with a variety of wood applications. The one that I know is primarily a cabinetmaker but also from time to time deals with gun stock repairs. He's been a gun enthusiast all his life.

On the sidenote, as a response to Mark Dube, Jesus was a carpenter, too and he made furniture (just in case you're not familiar with the Bible :))

MDR said:
Not ANY carpenter, maybe a furniture or cabinet maker who is used to intricate detail. I've met one or two who would probably take it on as a challenge, but it would not be top priority and they would not be familiar with cast for left or right handedness. Or you could go to "any" carpenter if you are happy with the woodgrain of a 2x6 piece of spruce ;)
As mentioned above, getting a second "parts" gun would be a good idea. You'd likely still have to fit the stock to the action.
All the best in finding some new furniture!
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The OP asked for some constructive advice from someone with experience.

If you don't know something you don't need to prove it, just read along and pay attention you will undoubtedly learn something.

In all seriousness, you are standing by your advice to "bring it to any carpenter"?

How about I pick the carpenter and we let him/her at your gun?

My dime, please provide a good quality British sxs so you can really prove your point.

And for the record, a guy that is a "gunsmith" is not "any carpenter"

And for further clarification "a skilled craftsman who works with timber" is not necessarily a "carpenter". A carpenter is not a cabinet maker. A cabinet maker is not a furniture builder. A furniture builder is not a stock maker.

I do not understand the Jesus reference, but my familiarity with the bible suggests that Joseph (not Jesus) was a carpenter and I'll bet he couldn't make a gun stock for a vintage sxs either ;)
 
Both Joseph and Jesus were carpenters.

Mark Dube said:
The OP asked for some constructive advice from someone with experience.

If you don't know something you don't need to prove it, just read along and pay attention you will undoubtedly learn something.

In all seriousness, you are standing by your advice to "bring it to any carpenter"?

How about I pick the carpenter and we let him/her at your gun?

My dime, please provide a good quality British sxs so you can really prove your point.

And for the record, a guy that is a "gunsmith" is not "any carpenter"

And for further clarification "a skilled craftsman who works with timber" is not necessarily a "carpenter". A carpenter is not a cabinet maker. A cabinet maker is not a furniture builder. A furniture builder is not a stock maker.

I do not understand the Jesus reference, but my familiarity with the bible suggests that Joseph (not Jesus) was a carpenter and I'll bet he couldn't make a gun stock for a vintage sxs either ;)
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greyman441 said:
I got a price on a set being made out of walnut at $3000
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I would get a few quotes on labour alone, then you have the option of finding an economical piece of wood. Personally, I wouldn't scrimp. If you have to lay out the cash you might as well have something decent looking. Moderate figure would be appropriate for the grade of gun. If you try building your own, I think you'll find it a little more complicated than it looks. I have a gun identical to the one in the first pic, btw.

You could try getting ahold of this guy for a quote, or at least some advice on how to proceed. He has good connections in England too, he might be able to ask around about a replacement.

http://www.leslieapaul-gunmakers.com/entry.htm

ss1980 said:
On the sidenote, as a response to Mark Dube, Jesus was a carpenter, too and he made furniture (just in case you're not familiar with the Bible :))
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I wouldn't let Jesus touch my BSA either.
 
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