With all the accuracy concerns we have on this forum, has any one here ever put a known good shooter action in a solid machine rest to test different ammo types? All the testing done by so many still has the human error factor involved. Seems like a good project to build. We have very solid concrete benches at the outdoor range I am a member of. A 50 or 60 lb rest clamped to the bench should suffice. A remote trigger release would negate contact with the firearm. A little searching on the net will give some ideas without reinventing the wheel. I have an Anschutz 64 target with a Weaver V 24 that should be suitable. Need another project till spring gopoher season anyway. Thoughts and comments ???????
Rimfire accuracy
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When Rudy Schulze ran International Imports, he offered this service to shooters. I don't know if North Sylva is carrying on with it. Both Eley and Lapua offer the service in the US at their test centres. They are very busy with shooting teams and other competitors. Some of the results are on Benchrest Central.
As delta1 said the results might be interesting but ultimately it comes down to the nut behind the bolt.
As delta1 said the results might be interesting but ultimately it comes down to the nut behind the bolt.
You're right that it comes down to the nut, but if you're using the most accurate ammo for YOUR particular .22, you'll have a better idea of your skills. I did some informal testing with my son's CZ, my Cooey 75 and my Norc, and the results were staggering. There were huge differences between group sizes. I don't remember all the details, but I know his CZ shot its best groups (including the Eley stuff) using Rem subsonic (yeah, Remmy - go figger), whereas the same ammo in my Norc wouldn't do better than 2-3" at 50 yds. My Norc was a tie between the Eley match and Winchester Wildcat. Group sizes were almost identical, but the Eley was more consistent (no fliers), but at 7X the cost.
off outdoor benches
If you where to try on a outdoor range with light light wind conditions shooting a 22 rimfire you would shoot bigger groups than a good benchrest shooter, who can read wind well
You would need to do what these fellows did a few years ago.
http://www.angelfire.com/ma3/max357/houston.html
enjoy read
manitou
If you where to try on a outdoor range with light light wind conditions shooting a 22 rimfire you would shoot bigger groups than a good benchrest shooter, who can read wind well
You would need to do what these fellows did a few years ago.
http://www.angelfire.com/ma3/max357/houston.html
enjoy read
manitou
Papac...
You're right about the peculiarities that rimfires exhibit with preference for ammunition. You may even find that the next batch of the same brand and grade of ammo doesn't perform consistently with your current favourite flavour. Once you have a pet fodder the rest is up to you.
To the OP,you are right that a solid rest and remote trigger release would be beneficial for results. The average shooter does not have ready access to a facility that provides a solid testbed or shooting rest in a constant environment. You can only experiment with what you have and if you are in the elements the bullets will be affected by atmospheric anomalies as well as inconsistent light affecting the sighting.
You're right about the peculiarities that rimfires exhibit with preference for ammunition. You may even find that the next batch of the same brand and grade of ammo doesn't perform consistently with your current favourite flavour. Once you have a pet fodder the rest is up to you.
To the OP,you are right that a solid rest and remote trigger release would be beneficial for results. The average shooter does not have ready access to a facility that provides a solid testbed or shooting rest in a constant environment. You can only experiment with what you have and if you are in the elements the bullets will be affected by atmospheric anomalies as well as inconsistent light affecting the sighting.
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OP, you will learn only what your 64 annie likes best, and will not be able to prove which ammo will shoot well in the next rifle. it really is a game of matching the ammo to the particular rifle. this is one discussion that will likely never end.
You guys are right, from reading many opinions on the subject, it's been talked to death already. I don't shoot that good anyway so minute of a gopher will do fine for me. I may build a rail type to ward off cabin fever waiting for the spring gophers. It's time better spent than watching the stupid tube.
I think testing with a solid gun mount and remote trigger device will only tell you what ammo works best in your rifle in the testing apparatus .
Guns have different harmonics depending how they are held or mounted . You have to test your rifle in the same way you intend to shoot it for
the testing to be significant . If you shoot mainly with a bipod , you have to test your ammo with the rests you intend to use shooting .
Just my take on the subject .
Guns have different harmonics depending how they are held or mounted . You have to test your rifle in the same way you intend to shoot it for
the testing to be significant . If you shoot mainly with a bipod , you have to test your ammo with the rests you intend to use shooting .
Just my take on the subject .
