Ruger Charger into a rifle legal?

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I was just wondering since I couldn't find any Canadian legal sources of making a pistol into a rifle in Canada.

I was thinking of maybe taking a Ruger Charger into a very short carbine by putting a full stock on it. They're both technically restricted firearms at that point but is there anything special or is this even legal to do?
 
There is a supplier on here that makes short 10/22 barrels, I would put a short barrel on a 10/22 and keep it NR.
 
If u don't care if it is restricted go right ahead. Nothing illegal about adding a new stock, just remember that it will always remain a handgun.

As has been stated u can buy 8 and 12 inch barrels for a 10/22 rifle and as long as the overall length of the gun remains over 26 inches you could stay Non Restricted.

Dlask is the dealer if you are interested.....
 
mlehtovaara said:
If u don't care if it is restricted go right ahead. Nothing illegal about adding a new stock, just remember that it will always remain a handgun.

As has been stated u can buy 8 and 12 inch barrels for a 10/22 rifle and as long as the overall length of the gun remains over 26 inches you could stay Non Restricted.

Dlask is the dealer if you are interested.....
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What if you had a folding stock like the Butler Creek or ATI stock. Is it still legal and non restricted?
 
You can't put a folding stock on a pistol? Really?

The Charger is restricted as a handgun. Putting a folding stock on a pistol doesn't change its status.
It is a non-restricted rifle that can have its status changed by shortening it below the limits.

Back to the OP's question. Yes, you can install parts to make a Charger look like a rifle. But it will still be restricted.
 
ww w.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm
"According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:

-a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,
-a firearm that is not a prohibited firearm, has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner,
a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise, or
a firearm of any other kind that is prescribed to be a restricted firearm

w ww.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/prohibited-prohibe-eng.htm

According to the Criminal Code, a prohibited firearm is:

-a handgun that has a barrel equal to or less than 105 mm in length, or is designed or adapted to discharge a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge, but does not include any such handgun that is prescribed, where the handgun is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,
-a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, is less than 660 mm in length, or is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,
-an automatic firearm, whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger, or any firearm that is prescribed to be a prohibited firearm
 
mlehtovaara said:
As has been stated u can buy 8 and 12 inch barrels for a 10/22 rifle and as long as the overall length of the gun remains over 26 inches you could stay Non Restricted.
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If the standard Ruger stock is used, it stays NR with the 8" barrel, but just.


Bubblewhip said:
What if you had a folding stock like the Butler Creek or ATI stock. Is it still legal and non restricted?
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If it will fold to less than 660mm it becomes a restricted firearm. Note that it must immediately be verified and registered as a restricted and that it is a prohibited firearm until you have that restricted registration certificate in your hands. The OPP have charged people with possession of a prohibited firearm while they were waiting on registration in the past. This has come up several times in interviews with Ed Burlew on the Reload Radio podcast.


Grantmac said:
You can't have a restricted with a folding stock that is under 26" when folded.

-Grant
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Yes you can. The fact that it folds to less than 660mm OAL is what makes it a restricted in the first place.


Mark
 
This is another law that to me just doesn't hold water. If a pistol is fitted permanently into a rifle stock why can it not be reclassified.. Especially the charger..

They say that a rifle that uses a pistol action is and will always be a pistol but a pistol that uses a rifle action can't be converted back to a rifle ... And they are the exact same ... Stupid
 
mmattockx said:
If the standard Ruger stock is used, it stays NR with the 8" barrel, but just.




If it will fold to less than 660mm it becomes a restricted firearm. Note that it must immediately be verified and registered as a restricted and that it is a prohibited firearm until you have that restricted registration certificate in your hands. The OPP have charged people with possession of a prohibited firearm while they were waiting on registration in the past. This has come up several times in interviews with Ed Burlew on the Reload Radio podcast.




Yes you can. The fact that it folds to less than 660mm OAL is what makes it a restricted in the first place.


Mark
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I thought it fell under this because it was a rifle:

a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, is less than 660 mm in length, or is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length

Either way, kind of useless to do anything with a Charger involving a stock. I mean, what is the point?
 
Grantmac said:
I thought it fell under this because it was a rifle:

a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, is less than 660 mm in length, or is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length

Either way, kind of useless to do anything with a Charger involving a stock. I mean, what is the point?[/QUOTE]

Because HE can.
His money,his business
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Grantmac said:
I thought it fell under this because it was a rifle:

a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted, is less than 660 mm in length, or is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length

Either way, kind of useless to do anything with a Charger involving a stock. I mean, what is the point?
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Changing the stock falls under "adapting", not "alteration", which makes it restricted and not prohibited. Stupid and nonsensical rules, at best. It's no more useless as a restricted rifle than an AR or vz58. If OP shoots exclusively at a range, it being restricted may be of no consequence to him at all.


Mark
 
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