"Affordable" Carbine tac light?

newless said:
I think in terms of weapon lights Surefire is now trying to show they can make a bright light. The x300U is 500 lumens and they do have a 700 lumen light that they have done a vid on.
Not long ago they would defend their weapons lights output with home defense situations in which 500 lumens would blind you and your adversary, thus the 100 lumen output.
Now they are going against that statment. For what?
Sales.
I guess it depends on what your setup is going to be used for.
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Personally I couldn't care less what surefire says I need. Put when people like Pat Rogers say it, I tend to listen.

And that doesn't change the fact that in this form factor, quality and service there is no one that beats surefire. You are buying into the advertizing, not picking gear that fits the situation if you care one bit about what anyone's ads say. There is a reason why the people that do this professionally pick surefire.

Shawn
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
Well you guys should be in the light business, shouldn't you?
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No, but certain lights and their switchology are better designed for certain tasks.

IE lights with multiple functions that you have to click through will not work the best for WML or as a primary hand held for a police officer. However that light will work for someone where it doesnt matter about the switch and the way it works.
 
I think mission dictates light output. I like bright clear lights but high lumens is a detriment in tight spaces like a house/ basement/ cave due tos splash back and dazzle. However, for rural or outdoor ops, the brighter the better if you don't have night vision.

I have Surefires on my duty rig, an Inforce light in a VTAC mount on my shorty AR and the Inforce WML as my general purpose rifle light. I have found extremely bright lights to dazzle me and teammates on entries.

Most AR owners and shooters would be served well with an Inforce WML or a Surefire G2 in a VTAC.

But hey, what do I know?

Forgot to add that I've been running an M3 on my Glock 17 and Sig226 with good results but I will be running an Inforce APL soon as a test bed.
 
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I got an extra Fenix kicking around and would like to put it on my AR. Problem is, I just have the stock forgrip... How would one mount one and have it look good/funstional, excluding duct tape
 
Pancake81 said:
I got an extra Fenix kicking around and would like to put it on my AR. Problem is, I just have the stock forgrip... How would one mount one and have it look good/funstional, excluding duct tape
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Magpul Moe Polymer rail segment:
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1" scope ring:
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Drill a couple of holes and install the MOE rail kit. Simple, durable, inexpensive.
 
Sorry, not to high jack the thread, but where can I find the Magpul rail? I checked the sponsors I know that carry Magpul, and non hand that listed? Cheers,
 
GG&G offset flashlight mount. You do need to drill a couple of holes in the handguard, but it allows it to be mounted in a fairly convenient location for thumb activation.

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Combine that with a Streamlight Polytac LED and 1" Weaver ring and you've got a complet setup for less than $80 from LAPolice Gear.
 
cyclone said:
Those MAG lights :redface: - could they work :yingyang: , in a pinch ?....:wave:
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Resurrect. Just doing some early morning trollin'.

I have 2 Maglights (with the newer Krypton bulbs) with some remote switches I bought a few years back. I used a spacer and yes, duct tape (of which I have a lifetime supply) on a standard 1" scope ring and they work great... when I use them (almost never). When I mounted them on my 858, I found the recoil caused the light to shift (hence the duct tape).

Not a high tech, ###y setup - but it's super bright and cost me less than $50.

One thought I've been having is ergonomics - why does everyone mount their flashlight forward on the handguard? It's a few extra ounces that your support hand alone has to compensate for. Wouldn't it make more sense to mount your light as far back on the gun as possible, almost as far back as to the optic?

I picked up a bunch of these, and I'm pretty sure I can fit it under my Vortex Strikefire on my AR.

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That aside, last low light shoot I did, the instructor (Bank Miller) indicated one of the biggest detriments to a flashlight is if your in a situation where someone can shoot back, unless you can blind your target, the light is pretty much a "shoot me" indicator. He showed a really goofy one handed technique with a handgun that supposedly was gaining popularity with LEO's in the US, where you extend your flashlight hand as far away from your body as possible, and one hand carry your handgun. Made me really wonder why you'd want a flashlight lining up perfectly with your centre of mass. (AKA - weapon mounted).
 
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harbl_the_cat said:
One thought I've been having is ergonomics - why does everyone mount their flashlight forward on the handguard? It's a few extra ounces that your support hand alone has to compensate for. Wouldn't it make more sense to mount your light as far back on the gun as possible, almost as far back as to the optic?
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Because you are trying to eliminate the shadow cause by the barrle/handgaurd, as it can hide stuff at night.

Shawn
 
shawn said:
Because you are trying to eliminate the shadow cause by the barrle/handgaurd, as it can hide stuff at night.

Shawn
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I guess there's tradeoffs.

I'll have to see how much of a shadow my flashlight makes mounted by the optic - although, a lot of the side mounted lights looks like they'd cast a decent shadow as well.
 
You also need access to the switch while shooting. You could conceivably put a pressure pad up front where your support hand is, and mount the light back...but you're still ending up with the shadow issue mentioned above. Put the light as far forward as you can so you can hit the switch without moving your support hand grip. The switch should be a simple, non-click, push for momentary-on only.
 
On the Fenix PD32, when you hit the momentary at the back what lumen is it for. Or does it momentary whatever lumen you have it set on. Very new to tactical lights and weapons in general so don't hate too much lol
 
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