pre 1898 winchester 1887

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any idea how many of these are kicking around

i got to thinking yesterday if i could find one it will not be antique in its 12ga form but if i could fint one with a bad bore and convert it to 14ga greener(12/14) that would make it antique would it not this could be done with doubles and singles that are pre 1898
 
I cant imagine theres too many available. I know the cabelas in Edmonton has one for sale, but it aint cheap. Dont recall pricing, but you could call and ask them. Its not on their website, its in one of the glass cases on the wall in their "gun library".
 
Lots of them still in use at Cowboy shoots. Both 10 ga and 12 ga. Not sure about the manf. date on them. Some of the 10 ga are 1901's so would be out as antiques. They are starting to get quite pricey, I sold a 2nd yr production 87- 10 ga a year ago for 900 ( to a vg friend so top-dollar gouging wasn't in the cards) but have seen them go at auctions as high as 1600.

good luck with your project, hope it works out.
 
The shotgun that got away for me. missed buying one by a couple of minutes. Dirt cheap too. I just hope the person who got it didn't T2 it, and fire smokelss out of it.
 
fingers284 said:
Lots of them still in use at Cowboy shoots. Both 10 ga and 12 ga. Not sure about the manf. date on them. Some of the 10 ga are 1901's so would be out as antiques. They are starting to get quite pricey, I sold a 2nd yr production 87- 10 ga a year ago for 900 ( to a vg friend so top-dollar gouging wasn't in the cards) but have seen them go at auctions as high as 1600.

good luck with your project, hope it works out.
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only ones made in 10ga where 1901's the 1887's where 12ga only

almost had a 1901 but i wanted a 10ga for ducks and geese not going to pay through the roof for bismuth shot i still should have got it big old boomer with some BP buckshot loads would be nice
 
There was an 1887 on thegundealer's used gun page for about 30 minutes a few weeks ago, looked in really nice condition. Price was $499, somebody got a good deal, a friend of mine just missed it, he has been looking for a good one for a while.
 
There is also the 1893 Winchester pump.
Wouldn't a conversion require a barrel and a reamer, though?
With the death of the LGR, seems to be a lot of work and expense, for no benefit.
 
tiriaq said:
There is also the 1893 Winchester pump.
Wouldn't a conversion require a barrel and a reamer, though?
With the death of the LGR, seems to be a lot of work and expense, for no benefit.
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i like getting the WTF look from people yes reamer and dies and barrel once the barrel is threaded i can do the rest my self
 
tiriaq said:
There is also the 1893 Winchester pump.
Wouldn't a conversion require a barrel and a reamer, though?
With the death of the LGR, seems to be a lot of work and expense, for no benefit.
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Anything qualifying as an "antique status firearm in the U.S." is fast commanding an "exemption premium" all of its own.....b:
 
bryan.14 said:
I have one that would make a good project, the barrel is bent though at the very front.
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Nuttin wrong with a 'round corner shootin scattergun.
Lessee it. There just ain't enough pics in this thread...

Veeerry interested in the thread or it morphing in to an 1887 #### thread. I'm at the cusp of finishing my 50/70 RB complete resto, and was seriously entertaining an 1887 as my next resurrection project.
Pics. Let's see pics!
 
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If I were rebuilding a winchester lever action, I think I would try playing around with the extractors. I had a 1901 version in 10 guage and while I sort of liked the gun, I think the chamber must have been slightly bulged because the extractors would tear through the rim without extracting the shell. I could knock them out fairly easily with a ram rod as I recall so it could not have been a very major issue with the chamber. I wish I still had the gun and could repair it. The gun had two extractors . one on either side buy they were very narrow. I think if a person made some new ones about 2 or 3 times as wide, extraction would cease to be a problem even with sticky shells. The other minor issue with the gun is that they are fussy about the maxium length of shell you can use. If the shells are too long, they will chamber loaded but then can't be extracted with the star crimp open. Other than that, the lever was surprisingly easy to operate although you need long arms with the long lever throw

cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
If I were rebuilding a winchester lever action, I think I would try playing around with the extractors. I had a 1901 version in 10 guage and while I sort of liked the gun, I think the chamber must have been slightly bulged because the extractors would tear through the rim without extracting the shell. I could knock them out fairly easily with a ram rod as I recall so it could not have been a very major issue with the chamber. I wish I still had the gun and could repair it. The gun had two extractors . one on either side buy they were very narrow. I think if a person made some new ones about 2 or 3 times as wide, extraction would cease to be a problem even with sticky shells. The other minor issue with the gun is that they are fussy about the maxium length of shell you can use. If the shells are too long, they will chamber loaded but then can't be extracted with the star crimp open. Other than that, the lever was surprisingly easy to operate although you need long arms with the long lever throw

cheers mooncoon
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you do know they where 2 7/8" chamber on the 10ga right and like a roll crimp

it would be brass shells most likely 12ga magtech that are formed into the 14ga greener witch if you dont know was used in the greener police shotgun witch is based off the martini action. now in that system had a ring cut into the head and the firing pin had 2 lugs that went into this so it could fire this was to stop the act of rolling paper around a 16ga shell and firing it out of one of these guns so if it should fall into the wrong hands ammo was not common.
 
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