Hornady 60gr getting pinched in die

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Anyone have issues using RCBS dies and seating HP's?
I'm getting damaged points on a few of the new 60gr's I got. I took the die apart and made sure it was clean.
Unless the bullet goes in absolutely dead straight, I get a buggered point.
tips, tricks, solutions?
 
.224" caliber? Is the tip bottoming out in the seating stem? Some guys running the VLD bullets find they have to drill a relief hole in the center of the stem to give the long ogive some space to go into. I wouldn't think that 60gr HP bullets would have that problem, though.


Mark
 
ya, .224.
It looks like the side of the bullet gets filed, like its getting scraped against something. I heard someone else comment about this problem, I will try drilling it out as you have said. I will see it that makes a difference. I am also noticing a ring from the seating stem on the bullet, I will measure where this ring appears, and the depth of the seating stem "can".
I tried to explain it to someone else, and the best I could say was "think of taking an empty soup can and placing the open end on a traffic cone" thats the best way to explain the shape of my seating stem.
 
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hoochie said:
ya, .224.
It looks like the side of the bullet gets filed, like its getting scraped against something. I heard someone else comment about this problem, I will try drilling it out as you have said. I will see it that makes a difference. I am also noticing a ring from the seating stem on the bullet, I will measure where this ring appears, and the depth of the seating stem "can".
I tried to explain it to someone else, and the best I could say was "think of taking an empty soup can and placing the open end on a traffic cone" thats the best way to explain the shape of my seating stem.
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I had a problem with.338" 225gr Accubonds sticking in the seating stem of a Lee die that made a ring on the bullet similar to what you describe. I had a second seating die from a different brand that worked fine with them, so the problem went away for me. Never had any issues with any other brand/weight of bullet in that Lee die, though. Sometimes, the combinations just don't work out.


Mark
 
hoochie said:
ya, .224.
It looks like the side of the bullet gets filed, like its getting scraped against something. I heard someone else comment about this problem, I will try drilling it out as you have said. I will see it that makes a difference. I am also noticing a ring from the seating stem on the bullet, I will measure where this ring appears, and the depth of the seating stem "can".
I tried to explain it to someone else, and the best I could say was "think of taking an empty soup can and placing the open end on a traffic cone" thats the best way to explain the shape of my seating stem.
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Is the scraping happening to every bullet seated? My 222 seating stem left that ring around the bullet about a 1/16" from the base of the nylon cone of the bullet (50gr VMAX) and that was caused by the design of the stem: I didn't have a new one readily available, but if I recall correctly, I chucked it in the drill and using fine sandpaper (600grit) rounded the sharp edge that was imprinting the ring on the bullet. My groups with ringed bullets were still fine, but it bothered me and certainly would have some affect. I use that plug to this day, and that 222 shoots very well with reloads.

Now that I think on the scraping of the HP again: The leading edge of the seating cone may not be a smooth cone - that is to say, the same cone I use might do this with HPs (I wouldn't know for I don't use them) because the leading edge that the bullet will encounter first is not a smooth transition from the wall of the die having a "flange" if you will. This might explain the scraping of the tip.

EDIT - The die I have for the 222 is also an RCBS.
 
I drilled it a bit deeper and it seems to be working fine now. I never had this issue with FMJ. But these 60gr are shaped way "pointier".
thanks for the replies and tips guys.
 
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