Body Armour Sales to Civilians: Update 21 Mar & Post 105

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There was a really interesting article in the Black Rifle forum about how most firefights against the Taliban were 300m and beyond.

In a SHTF scenario on this side of the pond, urban firefights will be measured in tens of metres as they currently are in military engagements worldwide. That's what I prep for -- worst case scenario. Yes, buy SFRC Level II vests but also beef up your protection for more than that outside.
 
In a SHTF scenario on this side of the pond, urban firefights will be measured in tens of metres as they currently are in military engagements worldwide. That's what I prep for -- worst case scenario. Yes, buy SFRC Level II vests but also beef up your protection for more than that outside.

I think both scenarios are worth considering.

Like I said, the Taliban smartened up when they realized they could reduce coalition infantry's effectiveness substantially by engaging them at the furthest distance possible.

In that scenario, heavy plate armour would be very much to their detriment - whereas light (or no) armour would be to their advantage. The coalition soldiers generally were packing hard plate armour as well, so without sniper, close air, artillery, or vehicle mounted heavy weapons fire support, the infantry on their own would have a VERY hard task engaging the insurgents at those extended ranges.

Remember too, Afghanistan is a mountainous country with lots of wide open space. Many regions of Canada are VERY similar geographically and if you're prepping for when SHTF, it would probably be best to consider relocating to such a locale.
 
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So, how does one get "registered" with controlled goods ???

And, could someone clean this thread up of the SHTF references, talks of the EVIL UN and armchair assessments of Taliban tactics.......
 
FYI During the serbian war the UN sent there peace keepers door too door and disarmed all the muslim people.And then left. As we now know the serbs came in and committed genocide. So how good do you think the UN really is? And who do they really repesent, the average joe, lol.
 
FYI During the serbian war the UN sent there peace keepers door too door and disarmed all the muslim people.And then left. As we now know the serbs came in and committed genocide. So how good do you think the UN really is? And who do they really repesent, the average joe, lol.
source ?
 
The NFA journal magazine last year. Their source you would have to read. But all gun owners should join so we have a voice.
 
So, how does one get "registered" with controlled goods ???

And, could someone clean this thread up of the SHTF references, talks of the EVIL UN and armchair assessments of Taliban tactics.......

Why would you worry about registering for a controlled good when you obviously aren't preparing for an unanticipated Black Swan event? Why would a tree mugger in out-of-the-way Edson -- galloping population of 8700+ -- need body armour to begin with?

Unfortunately, some of us live in slightly larger urban centres of 1 million+ (that's roughly 150 times the size of Edson and comes with armed gangs et al!) and have to plan for an (unlikely) SHTF event. That's why we stock body armour. Prudence.

So, yes, we take an interest in urban warfare and levels of protection. If all I had to worry about was a munching moose or elk, I'd probably brush us off as well.
 
Is this a new thing Canada wide??? Is there an original source? So if we wanted to buy Lv 4 armor we couldnt just use a security or rpal license anymore?
 
So there is a federal law banning some body armor for "civilians" now?

So tired of all the laws aimed at criminals but targeting the good guys
 
"Why would a tree mugger in out-of-the-way Edson -- galloping population of 8700+ -- need body armour to begin with"


Why would you need a gun of any type.....

Why do you need pointed knives, lets change them all so they have no points

Why would you need glass glasses in bars, or glass windows....

Why do you NEED to have permission to be out past midnight during weekdays

Why do you NEED X right if that right could permit terrorism to strike....

and so forth....
 
"Why would a tree mugger in out-of-the-way Edson -- galloping population of 8700+ -- need body armour to begin with"


Why would you need a gun of any type.....

Why do you need pointed knives, lets change them all so they have no points

Why would you need glass glasses in bars, or glass windows....

Why do you NEED to have permission to be out past midnight during weekdays

Why do you NEED X right if that right could permit terrorism to strike....

and so forth....

Reich, in case you missed it, that was supposed to be sarcasm. The city I live in increases by Edson's population every few weeks -- thus a multiplied "need" for body armour, guns, pointed knives, glass windows and so forth and so on. :D
 

A couple years ago I had the privilege of listening to a presentation by a CF officer who spent a tour in Bosnia as part of the UN's disarmament initiative. In short, his assessment of the situation was pretty much that of the early post you're asking about. I'll just leave my comments at that.

I'm not saying that I buy into any tinfoil UN conspiracy theories, but but simply would like to point out that a politically correct bureaucracy like the UN is prone to engaging in practices that are counter-productive to an effective solution to a wide range of issues.
 
I would personally feel safe with the highest rated vest when using any firearm at the range or while hunting. We should fight for our rights to own the highest level if in possession of a gun license as it could save our life.
 
To any jackasses that took what I said personally.....

There are already preparation threads......This is about availability of body armour for whatever reason, so, can anyone answer what I asked.....

How is an individual "registered" ??

One other question.....What was the "Serbian War"......?????
 
I believe the "serbian war" they are referencing was Kosovo, mid to late 90's.

There used to be home video on the internet, filmed by fighters of a few skirmishes

You may remember the video that went viral called, "russian soldier" where they stepped on the Russian Soldiers head and put a big knife through his throat and then hacked his head off.

It was

I think if my memory serves me well the U.N. stepped in.. Clinton was the President of the USA at the time, and they brought in the big guns - lets just say the war didn't last too much longer after the air strikes began.

If you want some details WIKIPEDIA, KOSOVO WAR. Just remember it isn't the best source since it seems to leave out the fact there were Religious aspects to the War, Muslims, Catholics, Christians...
 
Someone clarify if "grandfathering" is to occur for lvl 3 and lvl 4 plates.

They are to BECOME a controlled item, what of people who ALREADY OWN these things? Are we suddenly in possession of a prohibited item or is it ok because we bought it BEFORE the rules came into effect?
 
So for clarification, if a potential customer is already registered with the controlled goods directorate, holds a raid federal secrecy classification, and works for a federal agency, will you conduct a private sale of lvl 4 armour to them?
 
So for clarification, if a potential customer is already registered with the controlled goods directorate, holds a raid federal secrecy classification, and works for a federal agency, will you conduct a private sale of lvl 4 armour to them?

Of course, Federal agents require the top-most safety protection.
Citizens on the other hand....
 
So we buy level 3A soft body armor and can wear them and when the need for it ( maybe one day) Just couple it with a solid plate and it become lvl 4 :)
 
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