Front rest, Joystick type or not?

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I've been planning to build myself a more proper front rest, first thought was to make it so I have the controls for elevation and windage right by my left hand when I'm in shooting position so I can make easy adjustments while looking through the scope. But then I see on the net a few joystick type rests, and I'm wondering if that is more ideal. Some input from users that have them and used various types of rests would be great as I don't have one in person to try.
Also any input on ideal weight to aim for, rough height/size and any extra features to put in would be great to know as well.

thanks
 
I ended up deciding on the joystick co-axial type rest as it really seemed user friendly. Rough sketching the prototype tonight, making chips tomorrow. Will post a picture or 2 when done hopefully later Sunday.
 
you will be compared to the farley and the seb neo now and I highly doubt you will be albe to match their quality but please give it a try, and yes I have had a half a dozen of each over the years, Jefferson
 
I'm not attempting to match it or to do an exact copy(never even seen one in person), though I have a few parts in nuclear plants, labs and refineries that say I might be able to get by ;)
I can also do shiny if required. :D

My goal is to make something simple, solid, easy to manufacture and as affordable as possible if a final design was to be produced and no lead times compared to the build to order options. I can only allow so much time to this right now, so shiny won't be on the to-do list on this proto. I am trying to keep my weekends a little more free now for my own projects like this, but its not easy.
 
Blastattack said:
After using the Fulguam rest, I can't imagine wanting anythig else.
http://www.randolphmachine.com/front.html
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It does look like a pretty nice rest.
I thought about doing something somewhat similar but having all the mechanism for windage and elevation hidden under/inside the rest base and coming up close to the shooter. Overall cost effectiveness and ease of manufacturing of it wasn't there, when it starts looking like German engineering I know I'm over complicating it.
 


Hope these picture works!
I built this rest a couple of winters ago and love it.
Its a combination of various things from rests Ive used in the past.
Ive used it in many shoots here in Alberta an in the USA along with my gun that my good friend Ron Smith and I made from a piece of rebar. This pic was at the Range in Raton NM


I guess I cant put on pictures sorry
 
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Hope these picture works!
I built this rest a couple of winters ago and love it.
Its a combination of various things from rests Ive used in the past.
Ive used it in many shoots here in Alberta an in the USA along with my gun that my good friend Ron Smith and I made from a piece of rebar. This pic was at the Range in Raton NM


I guess I cant put on pictures sorry
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Tom, do you have email? PM me if you do, I can post them up for you, if you would like.
 
I'd like to see that rebar gun and rest, seems the pics didn't attach?

TrxR, I'm in NS.

I only put about 4hrs into the rest today. I doubt I'll manage to get it all done tomorrow but we'll see. I'm just using left over materials so kinda winging it.
 
SND said:
I'd like to see that rebar gun and rest, seems the pics didn't attach?

TrxR, I'm in NS.

I only put about 4hrs into the rest today. I doubt I'll manage to get it all done tomorrow but we'll see. I'm just using left over materials so kinda winging it.
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Fixed now? They show up on my phone.
 
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SND, please post some pictures of your previous attempts at designing a front rest, then we can see how far along you are in the process to date. Also have you ever had to opportunity to see a farley, seb or other joystick in person so that you know how they work. Have you ever built any front rests. (reason is I have seen some terrible atempts from folks who had never seen a REAL front rest before) hope you are having fun anyway Jefferson
 
New Seb joystick bi-pod

Here something new interesting.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/10/worlds-first-joystick-controlled-bipod-new-from-seb-coaxial/
 
Jefferson said:
SND, please post some pictures of your previous attempts at designing a front rest, then we can see how far along you are in the process to date. Also have you ever had to opportunity to see a farley, seb or other joystick in person so that you know how they work. Have you ever built any front rests. (reason is I have seen some terrible atempts from folks who had never seen a REAL front rest before) hope you are having fun anyway Jefferson
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I think most people that make themselves a rest, likely only make the 1, which to me makes their attempt in most cases really good for a prototype and whatever they wish to use it for. I wouldn't fault anyone on that unless its to give constructive ideas to make it better, everyone else is free to try to do better or pay someone else for it. A certain amount of my business is making prototypes for really good engineers and the number of drawings without a few revisions from initial release is no more than 10%, when we're not on rev.26, including one revision that came once I had 3000 parts made.

I did make 1 little/light front rest in 1 day a few months ago, will work fine with the 22lr.
I haven't had the chance to see the SEB or Farley or any such rests in person no, just pictures/videos on the net. I do have a pretty good idea of how they work, would be fun to take one completely apart but my goal is not to simply make an identical copy of someone else's product that they put time and effort to design, build and market. Also copying anybody's idea is assuming that no other possible way exist to find something else that works potentially better, thankfully we're not still driving Model T's. :)

Of course if you or anyone has PDF manufacturing drawings with parts list of the perfect real rest and willing to share I'm all for it, I also accept .STEP and .IGES files.



Ideas for improvements will definitely be welcome.
 
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