2013 US Ammo Shortages and the Canadian Market?

Been through this a few times shortages price increases??
My solution always have 3-4 years of supplies on hand.
I bought 2 boxes of rifles shells for my son in-law last fall?
Felt weird have shot mostly reloads or ammo that came in trades for 10-15 years
Ibuy shotshells for clays only because its far cheaper than reloading, but still have everything to do so.
watch and purchase low, keep good stock, If you need sell high!
Sounds like stock market.
Supermag
 
I will pick up some more .22 LR ammo for hunting & plinking,....& at least 5,000 primers to keep the rifles & handguns going. Pistol primers basicly as both my rifles & handguns shoot pistol cartridges....I'm good on bullets & powder. Got a great deal on a flat of 20 ga. shotgun shells for grouse hunting so that's looked after....:cool:

I believe this shortage that's coming will be the worst yet! Get it while you can folks,.....when they do get around to restalking Canada you will be paying a whole lot more for it too, because of the demand. Nobody likes to hoard, :rolleyes:but why get caught with your pants down....:redface:
 
Must be an eastern thing. I live in saskatchewan and zero problems finding ammo in Canadian Tire or wallmart. Lots of it there, ..so I picked up my Summer Supply and headed home.
 
Just added to my anti shortage ammo stocking, got from a club member 20 boxes of Nosler Accubond 165 gr 308 for 460.00, the same price he paid this summer from a Montreal gun shop, very happy with that... JP.
 
i guess a good thing here is we have supply other then the US we have many euro countrys,china,russia

as for surplus drying up sure that may be the case but what years are we on now for surplus russian,czech,chinese surplus in x39 and x54r both rounds still used in those eastern bloc countrys and still made last stuff i got was russain x54r light ball it was made in the 70's or so

i do think its time for a canadian manufacturer of ammo
 
Thusfar I haven't been unable to find anything I've been looking for and at prices that have not changed or sometimes even been lower than what I paid last year, so for the most part I've simply been topping up on a few calibers for which I didn't have much reserve. Except perhaps for some mags I've purchased, everything I've picked up recently is still available.

None of the dealers I've spoken to sounded like they were scare mongering, and for the most part gave me the impression that there's no reason not to sleep on any purchasing decision, but once the American ammo begins to run low in a couple months it will probably not be a great time to buy.

The Norinco and some other import ammo gives us greater slack, but much of what we've been seeing appear to be the remnants of ammo originally destined for the US market before the States cut off their importation in the early 90s. If that runs out, we'll have to rely upon more expensive, new production ammo even from China for US calibres like .223 and .308.

The only other thing I've noticed is less variety of 7.62x39 available than was the case a couple of weeks ago, which might reflect people buying it up now rather than waiting a couple of months when the scarcity of other ammo might cause more people to decide to shoot their SKSs instead.

I don't think that the sky is falling, but think that some measured purchases right now of calibres people like to shoot might save them some grief trying to find it in the summer and fall, perhaps beyond.
 
Beadwindow said:
None of the dealers I've spoken to sounded like they were scare mongering, and for the most part gave me the impression that there's no reason not to sleep on any purchasing decision,


I don't think that the sky is falling, but think that some measured purchases right now of calibres people like to shoot might save them some grief trying to find it in the summer and fall, perhaps beyond.
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Many of the dealers are NOT fear mongering and are not worried as they have all ready placed their orders and fully expect them to be filled. This I think is a mistake. Go in an ask your dealer to call a distributor to source something and see how much luck he has??? Most of the current supply is on dealer shelves. It won't be there when it runs out. This is exactly what happened in the U.S. LGS sold off their stock in record time, now they can't get anything as its ALL on backorder. I don't expect to see any U.S. made 22 ammo this summer. none zero zippo. hope I am wrong. Walmart is only getting 1/2 of the 10/22's they ordered in the U.S. and could sell, right now 6 times the amount of 22 ammo they can get. That's pretty big demand for U.S. products. That's just walmart. Dont forget the U.S. government is a new customer as they are stockpiling ammo for the 'Civilian task force'.
 
dizzy said:
Many of the dealers are NOT fear mongering and are not worried as they have all ready placed their orders and fully expect them to be filled. This I think is a mistake. Go in an ask your dealer to call a distributor to source something and see how much luck he has??? Most of the current supply is on dealer shelves. It won't be there when it runs out. This is exactly what happened in the U.S. LGS sold off their stock in record time, now they can't get anything as its ALL on backorder. I don't expect to see any U.S. made 22 ammo this summer. none zero zippo. hope I am wrong. Walmart is only getting 1/2 of the 10/22's they ordered in the U.S. and could sell, right now 6 times the amount of 22 ammo they can get. That's pretty big demand for U.S. products. That's just walmart. Dont forget the U.S. government is a new customer as they are stockpiling ammo for the 'Civilian task force'.
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I don't disagree with anything that you've said. The dealers I've spoken to admit that they don't know when new stock will arrive after they sell their current inventory and that they'd expect the price to rise when they finally get some. Even the Chinese ammo will likely be out of stock or unavailable most of the time should everyone redirect their purchases towards what's coming in from the Far East.

By "the sky is not falling" I simply mean to say that our stores are not empty yet, and that barring a sudden panic like what happened in the US, people probably still have a couple of weeks to purchase what they need. I'm working on the assumption that people already have a decent amount of ammo but would need to purchase some extra supplies (ie. like a couple of bulk packs of .22, their favourite hunting calibres that they don't normally carry in the same quantities as surplus, etc.).

Even in the best case scenario that the gun control issue were to die down in the US over the next couple of months, it would take several months for store inventories to return to anything close to normal. Considering that Canadian dealers would probably be a couple months behind the US in getting their orders filled, we could safely say that ammo would still be in short supply for this autumn's hunting season.
 
This type of panic is two-edged.

People end up overstocking, and don't buy for a long time after the panic ends or is proven to be a bunch of hype. Then there is no demand, so prices mysteriously become reasonable.
 
TJspeller said:
This type of panic is two-edged.

People end up overstocking, and don't buy for a long time after the panic ends or is proven to be a bunch of hype. Then there is no demand, so prices mysteriously become reasonable.
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A good point. Perhaps the longer term lesson to be learned is that people who shoot a lot ought to have at least a season's worth of ammo in reserve so that they could avoid the nervousness and potentially costly impulse buying that comes with such a panic. This has nothing to do with survivalist stockpiling or tin-hattery, but rather about thinking long term in anticipation of moments like this.
 
Wolf Bullets Ammo In, Feb 4th



We just had 100k rounds come in. 9mm, 40, 38 Special, 357 Mag, 45LC and 45 ACP
Might not even be on his site yet!
 
TJspeller said:
This type of panic is two-edged.

People end up overstocking, and don't buy for a long time after the panic ends or is proven to be a bunch of hype. Then there is no demand, so prices mysteriously become reasonable.
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Seen it before.
I've mentioned before about the "great primer famine" of the early 90's.
Somehow a rumour got started that all new primers were going to be made with chemicals that would go stale after a few years. There was a huge rush on the current ones for a while. After a few months, the panic died down. Soon aferwards, I recall seeing a table full of flats (5 x 1000 box) at a WA state gunshow, for $55 per flat! I bought several flats :)
 
The biggest difference this time around is many of the consumers are new. People who have never bought before are now buying. It's going to take a while for them to fill their pantries.
 
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