New rifle for me..... Er uh I mean my wife!

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So my wife has expressed that she would like to go on a week long hunt with me this fall. Target species will probably be moose. She needs a rifle. It must be crf. I have narrowed the caliber a to 6.5x55, 308,30/06 or 7/08. We will walk a lot of kms. I want this rifle to fit her and be comfortable for her to shoot. She has her own .22 and shoots my 7mm rem mag occasionally but only from the standing position. I don't care about SS and she prefers a wooden stock. What suggestions do you guys have?

Budget is negotiable :)


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Warren
 
My buds wife dropped her elk with a husky in that chamfering this fall, she's got a fixed 4x on it. My only concern is the weight as it will be carted more than shot. What do those Zastava's weigh? I also like that they come with factory irons.

Warren
 
maybe a remington 700 in 243 or 7/08? might be a little bit heavy though. maybe you might want to look into a singlr shot h&r? or even a win 30-30 trapper? also might want to look at the savage ultra light. very light and good for your wifes needs!
 
Model 700 is a push feed therefore a no go.I do have a Winchester model 94 in 30-30 but she prefers a bolt action rifle and finds that her fingers get chewed up by the lever.

Keep em coming

My leanings have been towards either a ruger compact or Winchester model 70 compact featherweight. Truth is this rifle will be hers and I am willing to cut the stock to fit her but this will probably turn into my backpacking rifle when she's not with me. I would most likely use a slip on recoil pad to make up for the extra LOP.


Warren
 
For sh1ts and giggles I dragged my wife over to the gun counter and let her try a few guns on for size. She shouldered a Browning Micro Midas and the Sav Lady Hunter. She soon realized that a properly sized gun did not feel awkward. She had come out to the range with me a few times and fired off my Tikka T3 in 270 win and my Savage axis in 223 rem. LOP was too long and the guns were too heavy and not ballanced right. If she takes up hunting big game I will buy her a Lady Hunter in 308 and top it with a light scope with long eye relief. In the in term I bought a Savage Axis in 7mm-08 with a youth stock. She has not committed to hunting yet so I figure she should at least have a rifle her size to go to the range with.

I think I would drag her down to the gun shop and let her try a few.

G
 
Zastava m70 6.5x55. Mauser action. Tradex or gagnon sports.
7 pounds and 6 ounces and the new ones have sights. You can also try and find a tikka t3 for 699. Trust me your lady will appreciate you when she shoots it off the bench. Or a 7 08 may work.
 
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I use a BLR lightweight in .308, and I have no trouble with it at all. It's pretty light and shoulders easily. It cycles extremely smoothly, so no issues with working the lever. I do use a PAST recoil pad though, coz,(not to sound all girly...:rolleyes:) I find the recoil, if I have 180's loaded, a bit much for comfort.:)
 
A Remington model 7 in 7-08 with a leupold 4x scope would make a nice light combination, with a youth hunter stock it will fit a smaller framed person.
 
possible tikka t3 and remington model 7. I have a model 7 with leupold 3-9 ultra light scope with out the stock and it weighs 4#12oz, just thinking of putting a lightweigt stock on so it should come in a 5#12oz
 
Selecting a gal's big game rifle can be a bit of a balancing act. The rifle must be light enough that she can carry it all day without undue fatigue, yet its recoil level must be such that she doesn't get pounded when shooting it. If you're a handloader, any modern cartridge can be loaded to suit her and the application it must fulfill, but if factory ammo is all she has access to, the cartridge choice needs to be on the moderate side. To my way of thinking a 6.5 cartridge, either a 6.5X55 or a .260 Remington is the logical starting point, as those smaller don't have the bullet weight to provide optimum performance on really big game. Yes I know, 243s have killed moose, and I know the math, if one shot is insufficient then shoot again, but to me there must be a reasonable expectation of a one shot kill; the 6.5 has it the .243 doesn't. The quarter bore fans correctly make the argument that only .007" separates the .25s from the 6.5s, but in traditional bullets there is a world of difference between a 120 gr bullet and a 160 gr, and in premiums there is a world of difference between a 100 gr bullet and a 140. The other two cartridges you might consider are the 7X57 and the 7-08, both have a long history of excellent performance on game and mild disposition towards the shooter. If you are a handloader then I would suggest a .270, .280, or a .30/06.

So much for cartridges. The key to success is the selection of the appropriate rifle, not so much the cartridge its chambered for. The rifle is easily fitted to her if it comes with a wood stock, which in this case she prefers, so its win win on that score. A high quality recoil pad needs to be installed, and the rifle should be fitted to her when she is dressed as she would typically be while hunting. Keep in mind that the rifle if a tad too short is easier to shoot then one that's a tad too long. Fully equipped with a sling, scope, and rounds in the magazine, it would be nice if the rifle stayed under 7 pounds, my wife's commercial Husqvarna 1600 carbine in .30/06 is closer to 6, but she prefers a ghost ring and post to a scope, and typical .30/06 recoil doesn't upset her. When youngsters come around to get some marksmanship instruction, I load 125-130 gr bullets to 2600 fps, which is mild in both blast and recoil, yet they are accurate out to 300 yards or more and are suitable for the smaller species of big game. My nephew has killed his BC mule deer with a 130 gr TTSX loaded to 2600 in his .30/06.

A much over looked piece of equipment these days is the sling, specifically a shooting sling that can double as a carry strap. I highly recommend the Safari Ching Sling from Galco. It provides a wide contact area over the shoulder when used as a carry strap, yet is is quick to put to use as a shooting sling, and greatly improves a shooter's chances of a first round hit. I like to mount the front swivel stud on the radius of the forend tip, as thus situated the stud has no way of cutting the hand when the rifle recoils.

Here's a few pics of our grandson doing some shooting with my wife's '06 Husky. The LOP is 12".

The sling here needs to be positioned higher on the back of the arm, and could probably stand to be a bit tighter . . .
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This is a better sling position . . .
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With the Decelerator pad and correct LOP, shooting an '06 prone is no problem . . .
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The forward positioned sling swivel on my .375 and .458
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Win ftrwt compact in 7-08, my son bought his girlfriend one and she loves it. She is slightly built and quite small and it fits her very well. She shot 3 bears with it last spring and is very good with it. Hers is the 308 but only because he couldn't find a 7-08 at the last minute, the way he always shops for birthdays etc.
No sights but a well made quality CRF rifle and hers shoots into 3/4" @100 with 150 gn loads at about 2750 fps.
 
I have taught more than a few women and children how to shoot, and as mentioned previously, the fit and weight of the rifle makes the difference between an immediate like for the sport or an immediate dis-like.

I have had great luck with the following rifles for women and children (who are generally smaller stature, but may not apply to all women or children- measure their arms and their strength and use common sense, but if they hold a rifle and look like they are leaning back and holding up a sack of cement - try another rifle)":

Weatherby Vanguard Youth 7-08
Browning Micro-Midas 7-08
Custom (made by me so not a lot of $$) made Swedish 6.5x55 on a micro wood stock (the stock is so slight and handy that I love it - but it fits like a dream for them as well and has a slight right hand cant to it that helps in the
perceived recoil)
Savage Axis Youth 7-08 (recognize a theme on caliber?)

I see that Ruger has made a Youth version of their American in 7-08 as well --- that would be a great rifle.

I am afraid that only the 6.5x55 in crf in this batch - but they all worked wonderfully for the ones that had to use them - they are light and trim and fit the hands of the user. I find that many women and kids cannot reach the trigger effectively from the grip of a "normal" rifle - one cannot just cut off a stock to get around that issue.


Make the rifle fit perfectly for them! It pays off big time.

O sure - a 270 or 308 can be substituted if they can handle it, but there is little requirement to go beyond that size of round until or unless they can handle it and require it.
 
Try a Ruger No 1a in 7x57 or 308 Win if you can find one...Simple to operate, especially for a new shooter, Light weight usually quite accurate and with mild recoil. Then no need to worry a CRF.

Jim
 
Winchester Model 70 Fwt in .270WCF. Have a 'smith adjust the LOP to her specs with a Decelerater on the butt and she'll be a happy camper. Top it with a Leupold M8 6x33 in LW Talley's with a good comfortable sling and she'll have a rifle thats handy to pack and is capable from varmints to moose and everything in between with the right loads.
 
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