416 Taylor - Help

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Hello,
I want to build a 416 Taylor but the only available barrel I have is 1 to 16.5" twist (it was made for 416 Rigby).
On the internet I found 1- 12" or 1-14" twist suggestions for the 416 Taylor.
The 416 Rigby and 416 Taylor used the same 400gr. bullet, why they have a different twist rate?
Is it possible to put 16.5" twist on 416 Taylor? Any help?
Thanks.
 
For a 416 Lilja lists twist choices at 12, 13 and 14, Shilen lists only 14, Douglas lists only 12 and 14 twists,

I think your 16.5 is a little slow. It may work but it also may not, it is on the edge... the wrong edge.
 
I have seen 458 s with 20 something twists so I would think 16.5 would work. If it was for a Rigby then the Taylor will be fine. Do some research to be sure
 
With the Taylor, for North American game, I would be tempted to stick with the Speer 350gr Mag-Tip or the 340gr Woodleigh. Both of which are fairly short.
 
If it work fine on rigby I hope it will work on Taylor. My idea is - same bullet, same weight, driven with the same velocity true the barrel...Why not?
I will try it and we will see...
Thanks to all.
 
Thanks to all.
my Idea was: the twist rate is related to bullets weight (length) and the velocity true the barrel, and not to the shape of the case in the chamber.
So, if 416 Rigby is OK with twist 16.5" rate and velocity 2400 fps why not 416 Taylor with the same bullet and the same velocity be OK with the same twist rate like Rigby?
 
416 Taylor

Hello,
I want to build a 416 Taylor but the only available barrel I have is 1 to 16.5" twist (it was made for 416 Rigby).
On the internet I found 1- 12" or 1-14" twist suggestions for the 416 Taylor.
The 416 Rigby and 416 Taylor used the same 400gr. bullet, why they have a different twist rate?
Is it possible to put 16.5" twist on 416 Taylor? Any help?
Thanks.

Hi I am going to build a 416 Taylor on a Parker Hale M98 Action and i am wondering how yours turned out and which twist barrel you ended up using ? :confused: Thks RJ
 
I don't think I would choose the slow twist. While the 350 gr Magtip is probably suitable, I would not choose to shoot lighter bullets, and it would bug me if my expensive custom rifle wouldn't shoot mono-metals or heavy weights. Given the overall cost of such a project, I would find a barrel that didn't have built in limitations. The barrel is the heart of the rifle, so its not the place for false economy.
 
As far as bullet flight and accuracy goes a 1-16 to 1-18 should work fine up to the 400 gn bullet. The bores from 375 up are all over twisted from the old days. The belief was that a faster spinning bullet would be more stable and solids would give better straight line penetration in meat and bone for the big boys, like elephant. I believe Taylor mentions this in his book "African Rifles and Cartridges". So unless you're going thumping elephants in the near future with it I wouldn't worry, it should work fine with expanding bullets.
 
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