Wire Haired Pointing Griffon

Thanks Longwalker, I have found breeders through NAV
HDA and elsewhere. They are all so far away and wont ship. I really don't want to drive 7500 km round trip to fetch a pup, so am looking in western Canada
 
Hit the SPCA...you never know what shows up there.
Could be a little older than a pup though.
Check out the big cities.
Old folks are heading over yonder and their pets
are left behind.
I was amazed what the Vancouver area had up
for adoption.
 
Hi Kamlooky,
i am not averse to a rescue dog , and have looked for one. it seems as though , for this breed, they are few and far between. I will just have to be patient and reserve a pup from a planned litter. I guess I am mainly looking for references for known breeders in western Canada.
 
There is / was a breeder in DeWinton Alberta. There is also a few just accross the line in MT, including one in Whitefish.


Is there a reason you are set on a Griff? I ask because I originally was pretty set on one myself, but when I dug a little deeper into the breed, I decided to go in a similar, but different, direction. IMO I made the right choice.
 
Pudelpointer said:
Is there a reason you are set on a Griff? I ask because I originally was pretty set on one myself, but when I dug a little deeper into the breed, I decided to go in a similar, but different, direction. IMO I made the right choice.
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Same here, was looking at Griffs, ended up with a pudelpointer too. I found them to be too soft and inconsistent.
 
In my case it was being test gunner for about 15 years at NAVHDA tests in Saskatchewan. I got to see many many good and not so good dogs doing the field search, search for duck, track, retrieve, etc. etc. The Pudelpointers were almost all consistent performers and very hard working. WPG's not so much. The griffs are very nice dogs, just not as capable as the dogs I like to hunt with.
 
I could fill a book about why I wouldn't go with a griff, but that would just sound like a rant. For me it's a couple of things, the main one being mental toughness. I have been around a fair number of griffs, and "grit" isn't a word that you think of with them, unless you are referring to the stuff that comes in on their coat. When they are in training they often shut down the second you put any pressure on them, a harsh word can be too much for some. This lack of toughness transitions to the field where they don't give you the 110% that you expect from your hunting dog. I've been thinking of where in my list of dogs I would have a griff, and I don't even know if it would be in my top 10, it's somewhere above the Spinone and below a Brittany. There are a lot of dogs I'd rather feed. I want a dog who is going to give me everything he's got every time we are out, and my Pudelpointer does that in spades. He is absolutely the best retriever I've hunted over and works very well with me other than his very first season I have never lost a duck with him. If you want grit this dog has it in spades, he's killed a number (6-8) of large coons, and he tried to single handedly take down a wounded mature white tail doe this fall, she only outweighed him by 100+ lbs.
 
I will freely admit that my first-hand experience with WPGs is close to zero. I've seen a few, scratched a couple chins, and watched one in a test.

My decision came from talking to hunters who had hunted over them, and reading about them on various forums and magazines.

Whereas the info I found and heard about WPGs was mixed, varied widely, and left me questioning my choice, the info I found and heard about Pudelpointers was consistent and reassuring.

IMO, if you are looking the best chance at getting a hard-working, exceptional versatile HUNTING dog, Pudelpointers are at the top of that list (with a couple other breeds), and make exceptional family dogs as well.

If you are a hard-core water fowler, get a lab; if you hunt quail in desert country or big fields, get a pointer or setter; if you hunt stubble fields 640 acres at a time, get a Visla; if you hunt ring-necks in thick brambles and thorn, get a Cocker.

If you hunt ducks, geese, sharpies, ruffed grouse, Huns, quail, pheasant, pigeons,.... snowshoe hare, Whitetailed jackrabbits, squirrel, fox, raccoon... consider a Pudelpointer.
 
Have you considered the Drahthaar? Have a look at vdd canada, do some reading about their breeding system & you quickly realize that they have appropriate controls & testing in place to produce TOP notch hunting dogs.

Here are some pics of my pup Nos doing what he does best...

Cheers
Jay

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First AND successful blood trail.
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Geese
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Grouse
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Porcupine.. And yes, this was expensive...
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Jay said:
Have you considered the Drahthaar? Have a look at vdd canada, do some reading about their breeding system & you quickly realize that they have appropriate controls & testing in place to produce TOP notch hunting dogs.

Here are some pics of my pup Nos doing what he does best...

Cheers
Jay

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We all know those boot licking porcupine killers are afraid of the water, the only reason he's jumping in in the top photo is there must be a cat behind him, and the only thing Drahts are afraid of more than the water is cats!
 
I wanted a dog with a wire coat. My first inclination was to forget about breeds and try to find a breeder nearby so that I could establish a relationship and visit. This was important to me because any yahoo can stick a stud and ##### together and call them hunting dogs. I did visit Steve Brodeur one time, but it was too far away from me to get any solid bead on the guy. I like the looks of the Griff, but their hunting style is defined as "cat like" - I decided that I wanted the German ethic that I was already accustomed to with my GSP's. That's when I decided on the Draht - anyone who submits to the testing necessary to obtain a registrable litter is borderline nuts. That alleviated the need for a kennel visit. Mine arrived Air Canada cargo from Newfoundland 3 years ago. I couldn't be happier.
 
Thinking said:
We all know those boot licking porcupine killers are afraid of the water, the only reason he's jumping in in the top photo is there must be a cat behind him, and the only thing Drahts are afraid of more than the water is cats!
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Bwahahahaha!!! Thanks for the chuckle Thinking!

Fortunately, Nos has not had 'free reign' with another porcupine, I've been able to stop him & pulled the quills immediately with pliers. As for cats, Nos really really 'likes' them... he he

Cheers
Jay
 
Thanks for all the feedback guys, Pudelpointers and DD's have also been on my list of breeds to consider. I need a dog that is good with Ruffed Grouse and jump shooting ducks. The dog would also need to stay close to my wife while on walks and be very bold around bears. My last dog was a Large Munsterlander, who filled both these roles very well. Unfortunately she died a year ago. I have considered another LM but would also like to try something else. Right now it is sounding as though the Griff may be a bit timid.I am in no great rush so I will do a bit more research, and maybe get more feed back from here.
 
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