mauser 13.2x92sr
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A bit blurry but it appears to be from the 1975 issue of Guns and Ammo Annual.I'm gonna have to root through my boxes of stuff,I'm pretty sure I have a copy in there somewhere.Looks like an interesting read.
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The recoil off of original mil. spec. ammunition was awfull on ears, eyes and I'm sure shoulders. If someone was to turn one up what material would be best and would it be wise to use black powder over commercial smokeless? Everything programmed just waiting for a machine to open up 
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The recoil off of original mil. spec. ammunition was awfull on ears, eyes and I'm sure shoulders. If someone was to turn one up what material would be best and would it be wise to use black powder over commercial smokeless? Everything programmed just waiting for a machine to open up
no blackpowder with this is not a good idea thats a hard cleaning for sure there is no commercial ammo only what was loaded by the military thats so rare its almost non existent. i dont know why people thing these guns will blow your shoulder off as with anything .50 bmg and bigger double up on hearing protection ear muffs and ear plugs
what would go on with the mauser for me bullets wise id have swaging dies made up that will work with a shop press and make copper jacketed lead core bullets could be done for any of the ATR rifles but some like the russain 14.5x114 use copper driving bands on a soild bullet
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Well I'm not worried about me it's the guys that had to use it on a daily basis in combat LOL and I will pass the BP warning along but I'm not sure it will sway his plans but Ill see what I can do. As for bullets I think it would be cheaper for us to just wright up a program and let the bar puller do its thing for a couple bars. When I was looking for specs on bullet contour I didn't see any bands in the assembly or blueprints so I think it will be pretty straight forward. I'm going to have to re think the case
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Well I'm not worried about me it's the guys that had to use it on a daily basis in combat LOL and I will pass the BP warning along but I'm not sure it will sway his plans but Ill see what I can do. As for bullets I think it would be cheaper for us to just wright up a program and let the bar puller do its thing for a couple bars. When I was looking for specs on bullet contour I didn't see any bands in the assembly or blueprints so I think it will be pretty straight forward. I'm going to have to re think the case
well the problem witn any soild bullet (id use copper thats been well annealed) you need bands this is where the extra metal go's when it swaged in the rifling grooves reason you dont see that in the military ball is because there a jacket some lead and then the hard core as for powder charge well i have no idea but id stay with smokeless maybe a .50 bmg powder these are slow burning
the casings well they have to be turned turning them means turning them to case head diameter boring them out to the right thickness annealing them well and running them into the forming dies you need a big press a rock cursher from CH4D with they're dies or a shop press with a homemade set of dies
Interesting pictures TonyE.
What is the rifle with the labels Fig. 3 and Fig. 4, with the cartridge similar to a recoilless rifle cartridge ?
I had a French Mannlicher-Berthier 1916 carbine at one time and had to order a 100 rounds of 8mm Lebel ammunition from California, at $5.00 per 100, they were in the same boxes as the 8mm Lebel Kynoch box pictured.
The round has a nickel looking jacket and a blunt nose.
What is the rifle with the labels Fig. 3 and Fig. 4, with the cartridge similar to a recoilless rifle cartridge ?
I had a French Mannlicher-Berthier 1916 carbine at one time and had to order a 100 rounds of 8mm Lebel ammunition from California, at $5.00 per 100, they were in the same boxes as the 8mm Lebel Kynoch box pictured.
The round has a nickel looking jacket and a blunt nose.
I don't see anything resembling a Figure 3 or 4 on this thread.
Round that looks like a rec'lss would be Chassepot M-1866. Fabricated completely, rolled paper case, "shoulder, neck" a separate part to hold the slug in place.
ORIGINAL Lebel ammo had a rounded nose with a small flat. Then came the Balle D with the .326-196 bronze bullet, then the Balle N in the 1930s: BT spitzer with lead core and jacket.
Round that looks like a rec'lss would be Chassepot M-1866. Fabricated completely, rolled paper case, "shoulder, neck" a separate part to hold the slug in place.
ORIGINAL Lebel ammo had a rounded nose with a small flat. Then came the Balle D with the .326-196 bronze bullet, then the Balle N in the 1930s: BT spitzer with lead core and jacket.
Hi TonyE,
I refer you to your post #18, showing a picture of a “ GERMAN CARTRIDGE FOR 13 MILLIMETRE ANTI-TANK RIFLE”.
If you expand the photo and click 7 photos right, you will see the drawing I am referring to.
I am inquiring as I am interested in weapons design and I assumed the photos are part of your collection.
Thanks.
I refer you to your post #18, showing a picture of a “ GERMAN CARTRIDGE FOR 13 MILLIMETRE ANTI-TANK RIFLE”.
If you expand the photo and click 7 photos right, you will see the drawing I am referring to.
I am inquiring as I am interested in weapons design and I assumed the photos are part of your collection.
Thanks.
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really only place i ever seen boys ammo it was going for $40 and up depend on the round type
Right, I understand what you mean now!
The pictures of the rifle mechanism and the small calibre recoilless rounds are of the 7mm Broadway Trust Company weapon, developed by Sir Dennis Burney in the UK at the end of WW2 and in the immediate post war period. The drawing is from the patent.
The rifle came to nothing but his designs in larger artillery calibres (3.45 inch etc.) led to the British WOMBAT and MOBAT series of RCL anti-tank weapons.
Regards
TonyE
The pictures of the rifle mechanism and the small calibre recoilless rounds are of the 7mm Broadway Trust Company weapon, developed by Sir Dennis Burney in the UK at the end of WW2 and in the immediate post war period. The drawing is from the patent.
The rifle came to nothing but his designs in larger artillery calibres (3.45 inch etc.) led to the British WOMBAT and MOBAT series of RCL anti-tank weapons.
Regards
TonyE
Thank you !
In case anyone else is interested.
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/ordinance-ammo/7mm-broadway-trust-company-271512/
http://www.iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-4_rifle
The predecessor to the gas venting system on tank barrels?
In case anyone else is interested.
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/ordinance-ammo/7mm-broadway-trust-company-271512/
http://www.iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-4_rifle
The predecessor to the gas venting system on tank barrels?
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In addition to my posts linked above, I also wrote an extensive article on the Burney experiments that was published in the International Ammunition Association Journal (which is the one mentioned in the Wikipedia entry) and republished in the European Cartridge Research Association Journal.
Regards
TonyE
Regards
TonyE
