WSM-which one?

Usually,human nature resistes change.Trying something new can sometimes be a good thing attitude.

While that is obviously true, it is just as obviously true that human nature seems very susceptible to marketing hype, and many, many products, from household cleaners to guns, that do nothing unique (and sometimes nothing even needed) are sold on the basis that they have "new" attributes that are, however, quite meaningless in the real world.

Human nature often resists change, but the function of marketing is to make people think they are smarter, or ###ier, or just plain more modern by consuming whatever someone wants them to consume so the marketers can make more money. The firearm industry has been "saturated" for a long time, and many "new things" are just attempts to make some profits.

If no one bought anything "new", guns and gun forums would be very quiet. Boring, even. But I think there are far fewer "new" attributes in the Short Magnum craze than the marketers want us to believe. If you have to do the sort of "work around" described by horeseman2 in order to overcome one of the obvious weaknesses of the short magnums (reduced case capacity with heavy for caliber bullets) maybe some kool-aid has been drunk. The .300WSM is a very nice round, and I would certainly consider it if I wanted a .30 caliber for some reason, but, if I already owned one, I wouldn't spend any money to replace my .300WM with it.
 
*****Topic Revival******

What do we all think of the OP's first post, a few years later on.

Which WSM is 'The One' 2013

Nothing much has changed. The 300WSM and 270 WSM are still the most popular. The 7WSM and 7SAUM are getting some attention from long range shooters. People still think you can't use 200 or 220 gr bullets in the 300WSM even though the same bullets protrude the same amount into the 300WM ;)

WSM's have been well received and the guys that were telling us a decade ago to "stock up on brass, as the WSM's will be gone in 5 years" were completely wrong of course. ;)
 
A few of us like this WSM alot - I had to make it.

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Should have gone .366"
 
Should have gone .366"
Left that one for you and other experimenters.
But a 9.3WSM would be maybe more awesome for sure - you should do it. Just be ready for comment - "Should have gone .375".
 
Left that one for you and other experimenters.
But a 9.3WSM would be maybe more awesome for sure - you should do it. Just be ready for comment - "Should have gone .375".

375 was done years go on the 24 Hour Campfire. Initially I thought it might be fun but then I got the 9.3 bug. I wonder if there would be any shoulder left if I went. 510" WSM. Hmmm...
 
The .35 Sambar has been built a few times, originated in Aus i believe. (35-300wsm)

fairly sure a fellow Aus Hunter who ive hunted with built his signature .458 Alpine... if memory serves me its built on a Browning Abolt an the parent case is WSM. (.458-300WSM)
 
You all missed the answer by a large amount even after a couple of years to think on this subject. The correct answer to this uncomplicated story is WSS at that time had some 270wsm rifles in stock and nothing else on the shelves.
 
Im kinda dissapointed that winchester didnt do a 350 or a 375 in the WSM's.

It seems to me the biggest advantage for a WSM over another magnum is dropping an inch off the action, and an inch off the barrel for bullet lengths, can give you a couple inches less length off the start.

If you can potentially build a rifle that functions the same but much shorter, whats the best applications for it? Id say shorter rifle for thick bush and close game encounters, in which case you may care less about speed (7mm's and 270's) and more about knock down (bears, wild pig, sasquatch, whatever).

Since there hasnt been much in the way of newer 350 calibers but decent selection of lead, I figure they should have tried at least one bigger than the 325.
 
I think the .270 WSM is decent as it is more cartridge than the classic .270 win.

The 7mm and .300 versions do nothing at all for me, since they duplicate existing cartridges at 30% - 50% extra cost for factory ammo, and with one less round in the mag. Frankly I have a very hard time imagining a worse combination.

The .325 does squat that classic 300 mag loadings don't already do with slightly smaller bullet diameters; and guy's thinking the .325 WSM is the same as a .338 win mag are out to lunch.

I think the WSM case would best be used for wildcats like a 6mm WSM (not .243 WSSM), 6.5 WSM, and 9.3 WSM.
 
I think the 270WSM is at the top of the list IF you are a handloader. With the 165gr and 175gr bullets available from Matrix you can really make that round show the true potential of the .277 chambering.
I like the 7WSM also, but the neck is way to short if you plan on playing with seating depth. The better version is the 7mm-300WSM wildcat being that the 300 has the longer neck. OR, better yet, the 7SAUM has the nice long neck and gets the same velocities witht 7-8 grains less powder.
Personally, I'm contemplating a 7SAUM build off of a Tikka T3 action with a #7 contour barrel. I think that would be a slick set up.

A 6.5wsm wildcat would also probably be a hell of a round.
 
Im kinda dissapointed that winchester didnt do a 350 or a 375 in the WSM's.

It seems to me the biggest advantage for a WSM over another magnum is dropping an inch off the action, and an inch off the barrel for bullet lengths, can give you a couple inches less length off the start.

If you can potentially build a rifle that functions the same but much shorter, whats the best applications for it? Id say shorter rifle for thick bush and close game encounters, in which case you may care less about speed (7mm's and 270's) and more about knock down (bears, wild pig, sasquatch, whatever).

Since there hasnt been much in the way of newer 350 calibers but decent selection of lead, I figure they should have tried at least one bigger than the 325.
Yep - Winchester techs weren't half trying to go beyond the 325WSM - er - the 315WSM as it should be known IMO. I believe pesky marketing issues nixed further larger bore developments and offerings commercially.
 
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I think the .270 WSM is decent as it is more cartridge than the classic .270 win.

The 7mm and .300 versions do nothing at all for me, since they duplicate existing cartridges at 30% - 50% extra cost for factory ammo, and with one less round in the mag. Frankly I have a very hard time imagining a worse combination.

The .325 does squat that classic 300 mag loadings don't already do with slightly smaller bullet diameters; and guy's thinking the .325 WSM is the same as a .338 win mag are out to lunch.

I think the WSM case would best be used for wildcats like a 6mm WSM (not .243 WSSM), 6.5 WSM, and 9.3 WSM.

Comparable 300WSM and 300WM ammunition is pretty much the same price. Or it was the last time I looked at the ammo selection at Canadian Tire. I can load 300WSM and 300WM ammo for about the same price, maybe a bit cheaper for the WSM as the WM uses more powder.
 
Yep - Winchester techs weren't half trying to go beyond the 325WSM - er - the 315WSM as it should be known IMO. I believe pesky marketing issues nixed further larger bore developments and offerings commercially.

Ya know what i mean eh, the selection isnt very broad at all, .277, .284, .308, .315 they shoulda at least done a .338, though i think a .350 or .375 would have been interesting.
 
Ya know what i mean eh, the selection isnt very broad at all, .277, .284, .308, .315 they shoulda at least done a .338, though i think a .350 or .375 would have been interesting.

The key factor in large bore cartridges killing power is simply a very heavy bullet! (self-evident but true)
They tried but found it impossible to produce a satisfactory competitive 338 Win Mag equivalent short magnum cartridge.
The big issue were:
  • insufficient effective case capacity in the case of heavy large caliber bullets
  • too small shoulder case

Rather than creating an unsatisfactory 338 WSM, they created the excellent 325 WSM.

Alex
 
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