DA Cougar Total Junk.... Updated

Dave_Shotgun said:
Funny how the DA Cougar was a poorly built shotgun, but the DA Grizzlies are pretty well built. They could be better polished, but their pretty reliable at the range.
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What's funny is how the people of CGN believe this crap... Take a look at any well built shotgun and you will see the dominion arms stuff is far from it. These are cheap toys, nothing more nothing less.
 
gastonglock said:
What's funny is how the people of CGN believe this crap... Take a look at any well built shotgun and you will see the dominion arms stuff is far from it. These are cheap toys, nothing more nothing less.
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There is a member here who last posted his DA grizzly has fired in excess of 15000 rounds. Those are right on par with a Remington express any day
 
The dominion arms stuff is ok... It's far from well built.

Heck, I don't see any North American police departments making the switch from Remington.

If my life was in danger the last gun I would grab would be some off shore p.o.s. that MIGHT work.
 
I thought about getting one, used Rem 1100 are way overspriced for what they are and the Cougar caught my eye ( Ghost Rings, 18" barrel, semi auto ) Well I have doubts with Norc/Chinese shotguns, I bought many years a HP9 lawman when they first came out, 1st rd the bead blew off ( it was crooked anyways ) about 200rds in the action bars bent to needing new ones.

I ended up selling it for parts.
 
Liquid_Snake said:
The mag fed grizzly is crap to .. Poor mag design and a jam 0 Junk . I know because I had one.
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My Grizzly wouldn't feed properly either until I sanded down the lips on the box mag. But after doing that, it feeds perfectly and ejects perfectly. The Chinese guns are by no means perfect, but with a little work, they can shoot reliably.
 
I have an 1100 and 870 express as well as the DA versions. My cougar was a royal pain in the ass but the 1100 isn't any better. Of the 3 new grizzlies I've handled (2 mine, 1 I bought as a gift) their actions felt better than the 4 new 870's I've handled. The fit on the 870's were better, but the finish sucked ass. For example my brand new 870 tactical rusted after an afternoon in the rain. I wouldn't hesitate to grab one of my grizzlies if my life depended on it. In fact my 12.5 grizz is my go-to camp gun. When I simply look at what I get vs what I pay, the DA's in my opinion are still a better bang for the buck. The only exception would be my used 870 wingmaster, but that was produced a long time ago when remington still knew how to make decent guns.
 
20 guage in the 12 guage barrel with a 12 guage behind it.. go big or go home...


but don't actually do this... just a joke (disclaimer)
 
Liquid_Snake said:
The mag fed grizzly is crap to .. Poor mag design and a jam 0 Junk . I know because I had one .
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Agreed, but I had two...

Dave_Shotgun said:
My Grizzly wouldn't feed properly either until I sanded down the lips on the box mag. But after doing that, it feeds perfectly and ejects perfectly. The Chinese guns are by no means perfect, but with a little work, they can shoot reliably.
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While I agree with you (did all this) it didn't keep the rounds in the mag when doing mag swaps- handle it quick and the shells would either stand up or spit out
The gun was workable, but the mags were not- the mag that came with it was ok but the spares sucked.
 
The Norinco guns are all hit and miss. Some are VERY good as in the case with newer M305 recievers being closer to USGI spec than SA. My HP-9 needed a little work out of the box and now its an excellent shotgun. Definetely better than a new express. Why havent LEO switched to chinese? Cause 1 they use 870Ps that are a cut above express models and patriotic americans would have anurisms (sp?) at the thought. Nobody said theyre so much better that everyone should switch, but they are well built. Not everything Norinco makes is but the Grizzly/HP-9 and newer M305 are.
 
I look at it like this. China now manufactures virtually all of the electronics and appliances in our homes. Flat screen tv's that we watch, computers and cell phones. They are not all junk. It all depends on the factory that made it. If they use the cheapest parts then the finished product will be cheap. If they want to make good products, they surely can.
 
My griz mag was a jam-o-matic dead mans gun total POS.... Even the mags were crap. Also I like the weld her up tight and fill full of powder with long string idea. For some reason I think it would be fun to get some pipe and weld it on the end of the barrel so the barrel was.... Oh I don't know maybe 15 feet long. It would make one hellova funny vid doing some mall ninja stuff with your 150+ inch barrel.....lol
 
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