I shoot regularly with a Carbine club here in Texas. Most competitors use some form of brake or compensator. A lot of them tune by boring an extra hole on one side of the unit to compensate for "twist". It's a low cost solution that seems to work well.
Considering a Tavor, Is it that good?
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You will not be able to take a Non US made Tavor south of the border ever , if they sell the US made version here then you could take that , just like you cant take non US made AR15s .. They have to have 80% US made parts to comply with 922r.
When out shooting for the day, I'll spend some time with the Tavor and then do some plinking with my CZ858. It's like night and day. The Tavor trigger is heavy and mushy.
However, it's one of the trade offs to have such a compact rifle. It was designed for urban use and vehicle borne operations. Use it once in a truck and you are sold for life. It is my go to rifle for field work and coyote control.
As with many firearm/legal discussions the water gets muddier and muddier. I just dabbled in 18 USC Chapter 44, Section 922 and ended up lost in no time. I doubt if the 80% rule applies as my "100% made in Germany" SIGs have made the trip south several times. I do know that Norincos are not welcome visitors but that's because they are specifically prohibited for political reasons. There are also many other guns imported into the US that directly compete with US made product.
I hesitate to make a cold call to the ATF as experience has shown that results can vary depending on who answers the phone and where you get directed. I try to make the call after more preparation which is why I posted here. I'm sure that this question is of interest to a lot of Canadian Tavor owners that may wish to come south. I'll post anything that I learn.
that's one of the main reasons im eyeing this over the swiss. Its gonna be my bush gun (in NB we have a caliber law, has to be .223 or smaller for varmint) and ive had a swiss at one point, way too heavy. I only caught a glimpse of one at the range it looked so light and compact! Envy ensued. I think I'll be OK with the trade off. just never put much thought into it.
Hopefully its my birthday gift from me to... ME! in a month! 
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Pistols do not have to meet the 922r requirements ,only the detachable mag semi autos do .. To bring any semi auto detachable mag military style rifle in the states the receiver and some other parts must be made in the USA ... I have went through it all because i take rifles across the border regularly .
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correct ,, any detachable magazine military style semi auto must have the receiver and some other parts made in the USA to be able bring it in .. This is why they are making the Tavor in the US now because it was against the law to import them from Israel . same reason that all post ban AK47s in the US have receivers and a few other parts made domestically.. I would really like to take my Swiss arms down south but i cant , the few post import ban swiss arms guns floating around the US sell for up to $10000 !!
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Thanks Mr. Boss,
That makes the purchase of a "Canadian" Tavor unlikely as I spend six months a year in the US.
I wonder how this affects AR's built with Canadian components such as Motiuk or Alberta Tactical. I'm considering building a complete lower so the plot thickens......
Gord
That makes the purchase of a "Canadian" Tavor unlikely as I spend six months a year in the US.
I wonder how this affects AR's built with Canadian components such as Motiuk or Alberta Tactical. I'm considering building a complete lower so the plot thickens......
Gord
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Im pretty sure if the ATF will refuse your application if the lower is Canadian made ,, If your planning to take it down south i would go with a US made lower . cant see them bending the rules for a Canadian made rifle.
As much as I'd like to have one of these because they are just so frickin' gorgeous and fun-looking for a non-restricted rifle, I'd never tolerate a trigger bad enough to become a ubiquitous talking point. Don't suppose there are any trigger kits for these, are there?
I don’t have a Tavor, but I have spent some intimate time with one. I personally would not give up any of my AR’s for a Tavor, but mainly because I have little advantage of having a non-res over a restricted rifle. That being said, yes, it is that good, but as long as you take it for what it is. As others have said this is a rifle that was designed for urban warfare, not sub-MOA accuracy or what have you.
As for the trigger, it is kinda heavy and it does have this strange plastic mushy feel to it, which I would describe as akin to a child’s toy, but it’s really not that bad. I would not discount the whole rifle based solely off the trigger. As I said, it’s not a high accuracy rifle and thus it doesn’t have a trigger meant for bench rest shooting, it has a trigger that would be suitable for soldiers in an urban warfare environment. Which from what I have seen, the trigger can be manipulated surprisingly fast. I feel that most people would get over the trigger feel pretty fast if they liked the rest of the rifle.
Honestly, for me, my only real gripe is that I find it has an odd recoil pulse, an up and to the right motion, as oppose to the gentle springy feeling of my AR’s.
As for the trigger, it is kinda heavy and it does have this strange plastic mushy feel to it, which I would describe as akin to a child’s toy, but it’s really not that bad. I would not discount the whole rifle based solely off the trigger. As I said, it’s not a high accuracy rifle and thus it doesn’t have a trigger meant for bench rest shooting, it has a trigger that would be suitable for soldiers in an urban warfare environment. Which from what I have seen, the trigger can be manipulated surprisingly fast. I feel that most people would get over the trigger feel pretty fast if they liked the rest of the rifle.
Honestly, for me, my only real gripe is that I find it has an odd recoil pulse, an up and to the right motion, as oppose to the gentle springy feeling of my AR’s.
Well, I was worried because I used to fire an SL8 off a bench with a gritty plastic trigger and it drove me nuts! But as a bush gun for me it won't be a problem.
All depends on your use.
All depends on your use.
The trigger isn't bad as it is safe...well over 8lbs of safe-ness.
The trigger group comes out in like 2 seconds. As the rifle becomes more popular someone will offer a hunting/ target trigger pack. The trigger fine for what the gun is designed for, quickly shoot center of mass only when you mean to. We are getting the real deal in this rifle (the actual rifle the Israeli troops get) unlike the US.
When trying to shoot a tiny group I have noticed the trigger is not like the aftermarket 1/2 pounder er I bought for my other semi...
Accuracy update on the Tavor tar 21. I spent sometime dryfiring my Tavor and the trigger improved quite a bit. I decided to zero at 100 yards and I noticed that the groups were much improved. I am using an LMT tactical rear iron sight and a utg front sight. These groups both measured 1.75 Inches and were shot at 100 yards.
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