Money and accuracy ratio!!

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I have to laugh..I was with a friend talking about the good ole days of making cars go fast.There was a rule of thumb for more horse power...for every horse over stock it will cost you 5.00 ...mind you, it was just a rough rule!!(it was late 70's early 80's)

I have tried to apply the same logic with firearms....to shrink your group size even a eighth of and inch,how much do you have to spend.....HUMMMMM!!

Just a thought....I sometimes think accuracy is not a factor...like the chrome valve covers that add 10hp,you paint the stock and.....BAMG......groups tighter...go figure!!
 
Pure mechanical accuracy - my rules of thumb for say 100/200yds

1/2 min, $500 to $1500. yes, you can get lucky with a dirt cheap factory rifle

down to 1/4 min. $1500 to $3000

down to 1/10 min. $2500 to 4000

down to the zeros - see above and toss in a bunch of luck. You may need a few barrels to get it done

for out to 1000yds -

sub MOA $500 to 1500
solid 1/2 min $1000 to 3500
Solid 4's - add $1000
solid 3's - add another $1000 to $2000 as you will likely be putting on a bunch of barrels.

not going to consistently go under that with current components.

Jerry
 
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I have to laugh..I was with a friend talking about the good ole days of making cars go fast.There was a rule of thumb for more horse power...for every horse over stock it will cost you 5.00 ...mind you, it was just a rough rule!!(it was late 70's early 80's)

I have tried to apply the same logic with firearms....to shrink your group size even a eighth of and inch,how much do you have to spend.....HUMMMMM!!

Just a thought....I sometimes think accuracy is not a factor...like the chrome valve covers that add 10hp,you paint the stock and.....BAMG......groups tighter...go figure!!
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Many parallel lines do cross between both sports... The guy who often wins is the one who knows his machine, understands his environment and eats breaths and sleeps with one thing on his mind...

Group shooters into classes like race cars have and you would see some interesting changes to the sport...

Try running a 600m shoot with stock hunting rifles only allowed 3 modifications running store bought ammo sometime... That's what us racers have to put up with.
 
You can sink 5K or more into a rifle but if the shooter isn't up to the task, you might as well be shooting an SKS.
Barrel, bedding and bullets are the hardware, the software is between your ears, that's what wins matches.
 
Echoing what Jerry said, you can get lucky with an inexpensive factory rifle which is why I happen to be a fan of the current Remington SPS as one I owned and two owned by friends were all very good shooters out of the box producing better than 1 MOA consistently and half MOA on occasion. The fact is though that with inexpensive factory rifles the statistical probability is that they won't be excellent. As you move up the price point to the Remington R5's for example. the odds of getting a poor shooter seem to diminish. As you increase the expenditure to things like the TRG the odds are if it don't shoot it is you or bum ammo. In my experience for example most R5's are solid .75 rifles with some doing better ( I am talking about consistent results here not the 'one off' group )

Going below 1/2 minute time after time after time requires an excellent rifle with excellent glass, ammo and shooter. You could spend $10K and not get that.

So I say that while it may be that you get lucky you really ought to be thinking of something like a R5 if you want to increase the odds in your favour of getting sub minute, so let's say $1200

To get consistent 1/2 MOA the TRG ( I've had 3 ) always seems to deliver that number, so let us say $3500

To get consistent sub half MOA I think you need to look at purpose built target rifles as few tactical type guns can manage that task ( maybe my PGW's can as I have shot many 1/2 MOA but can't guarantee it so most likely I may be a limiting factor ). Cost $3K upwards.

Calibre choice will help - eg the 6mmBR is simply a more inherently accurate round than the .308 - so factor that in to your quest.
 
Hey don’t forget the rifle is only half of it. You also need to spend about the same amount on all the good reloading equipment.

And by far the most important thing you need if you want to build a nice precision rifle is a "somewhat gullible wife!"
 
rarely does a guy buy the right rig right off the bat. a lot of money is not being factored into the equation here, and that is the cost of learning and going through all the gear to get to the right combo for the shooter.
 
BadAsMo said:
Hey don’t forget the rifle is only half of it. You also need to spend about the same amount on all the good reloading equipment.

And by far the most important thing you need if you want to build a nice precision rifle is a "somewhat gullible wife!"
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I just read this post to my wife......

She said "so now I'm gullible"

I replied "no, but I don't have a precision rifle either"
 
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