Hi all, just picked up tonight 50 round of what I'm told is 762x51 canadian army surplus. The guy had it for many years and offered it up for 25 bucks, all on 5 round stripper clips. The head stamp has IVI with a circle with a plus sing in the centre and the number 78. I was wondering if I should blast this stuff off in my m14 or would it have any collector value? What the shelf life of this stuff, assuming proper storage?
Canadian 7.62
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In my opinion I would go ahead and use it in your rifle as there is a fair bit of the stuff kicking around here and there.I had a few 100 rounds at one time that shot very well out of my rifles and the brass was very good quality for reloading purposes.As for shelf life,you should be well within it's best before date assuming it has been stored OK.
IVI is for the Valcartier Quebec ammo plant (Industries Valcartier Inc?)
Circle with a cross inside means it meets NATO specifications.
78 means it was made in 1978.
$25 for 50 rounds is a pretty good price but I doubt you could get more than $1/round for it. I find IVI 7.62 NATO brass at the range I go to fairly frequently. I would say it's perfect for an M14 (Norc I'm assuming) or any NATO spec chambered rifle.
Shelf life of that ammo is probably another 50+ years even though it's already 35 years old (assuming it's stored cool and dry.)
Circle with a cross inside means it meets NATO specifications.
78 means it was made in 1978.
$25 for 50 rounds is a pretty good price but I doubt you could get more than $1/round for it. I find IVI 7.62 NATO brass at the range I go to fairly frequently. I would say it's perfect for an M14 (Norc I'm assuming) or any NATO spec chambered rifle.
Shelf life of that ammo is probably another 50+ years even though it's already 35 years old (assuming it's stored cool and dry.)
Good info guys, thanks I figured that it would be good blasting ammo, I've just never ran into it before. The fact that its Canadian ammo made it a must have. If I reload the brass, will I be able to resize/ deprime them like federal/Winchester/remington brass I'm used to working with?
The only difference between this brass and commercial stuff sizing wise is the crimped in primer.You will have to remove this leftover crimp after depriming before you insert a new primer.Some guys just give the primer pocket a few turns with a simple case neck chamfer tool,I use a Lee number,which is OK if you are doing a relatively small number of cases.If you are into processing large numbers of cases then you will probably want to get yourself something like an RCBS primer pocket swager or something similar to make things easier for yourself.Remember that this military brass is heavier than most commercial brass and will have less internal volume so load this stuff as a lot of it's own and stick to a start load at first to avoid pressure problems.This brass will last a long time when properly cared for.
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I'd save 5 on a stripper clip for the man cave and blast the rest. Cool piece of Canadian memorabilia.
Military brass is actually quite a bit thicker and thus heavier. The smaller internal capacity is what can cause higher pressure with the same data compared to civilian brass.
Just a little precision; IVI loading plant was / is (it's now General Dynamics Canada, it's also ex-Dominion Arsenal) located in LeGardeur, a suburb of Montreal, powder plant (IMR powders) is located in Valleyfield and brass plant in St-Augustin-de-Desmaures, in the Quebec City suburbs.
Civilian powders;
http://www.gd-otscanada.com/upload/File/Listing - Propellants - Sporting(1).pdf
Military powders;
http://www.gd-otscanada.com/upload/File/Listing - Propellants - Military(1).pdf
Civilian powders;
http://www.gd-otscanada.com/upload/File/Listing - Propellants - Sporting(1).pdf
Military powders;
http://www.gd-otscanada.com/upload/File/Listing - Propellants - Military(1).pdf
