Remington 700 ADL
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Rem 700 is a good starting point, but hey... SAKO is better. The rest depends on your defenition of precision shooting.
The 223 is great, again... for what?
If you want to shoot 600 yards plus then you will need an 8 inch barrel twist so you can shoot 80 grainers, or maybe a 6.5 twist so you can shoot 90 grainers.
If you just want to plug ground hogs at 200 yards with 50 grainers, thats different.
The trigger is not critical to field gun accuracy. Focus on the barrel weight and twist rate. BUT to answer your question... Yes it will accept jewel, timney CG triggers with no problems.
If the barrel on the rifle you mentioned has a 13 inch twist rate, it will not work well at 500 + yards, and not great at 300.
The 223 is great, again... for what?
If you want to shoot 600 yards plus then you will need an 8 inch barrel twist so you can shoot 80 grainers, or maybe a 6.5 twist so you can shoot 90 grainers.
If you just want to plug ground hogs at 200 yards with 50 grainers, thats different.
The trigger is not critical to field gun accuracy. Focus on the barrel weight and twist rate. BUT to answer your question... Yes it will accept jewel, timney CG triggers with no problems.
If the barrel on the rifle you mentioned has a 13 inch twist rate, it will not work well at 500 + yards, and not great at 300.
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Some say ADL rifles are more accurate........
It has to do with the fact that the stock is more rigid than one with a hole completely through it.
Almost every single high end semi custom rifle maker out there (cooper, nosler Kimber) most accurate models have a blind magazine.
It has to do with the fact that the stock is more rigid than one with a hole completely through it.
Almost every single high end semi custom rifle maker out there (cooper, nosler Kimber) most accurate models have a blind magazine.
Here's the thing...
Chances are the twist rate is no faster than 1 in 12, that ensures that is can only be a short range rifle.
For the same price, you can get any number of other rifles that will have an 8 inch twist that you can use to shoot to 1000 yards with. So why would a guy take that option off the table by deliberately buying a slow twist barrel?
Hey, it's up to you, but I think you should have a look at Savage and Tika rifles with the 8 twist for a start which will be similarily priced and at least you have the option of running heavy bullets and shoot long range. You can also shoot 50 grainers through a 1 in 8 twist, the cool thing is since they are spinning faster, they are more explosive on impact.
69 grain SMKs are awsome on critters from a fast twist.
Remington actions with a floor plate would in theory have a stiffer action. The reason is there is a rib on either side of the action that acts as the feeder for the magazine. Those feed ribs would stiffen the action because they provide extra steel in the most flexible part of the action where strength is needed most. The models that take box magazines have this rib removed so the rounds feed directly from the magazine. So in theory, the mag fed actions would be slightly less rigid than floor plate models.
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ADL's in .223 Rem have 1:12" twist barrels. As pointed out, you're limited to lighter bullets; generally up to 60gr. in weight. Sporter weight barrels aren't generally condusive to "precision shooting" but it wouldn't stop me from using the rifle for what it was intended for - hunting. That doesn't mean it won't be reasonably accurate with the right load combination. There's lots of good match/varmint flat based bullets that are very accurate to 400 yards.
I don't believe Remington offers the ADL at this point and has been replaced by the SPS as the entry level model 700.
I own a 700 ADL in .223 and had the barrel chopped from 24" to 20" and it's fairly accurate for what it is. It's light weight and compact in size.
You'll have no issues installing aftermarket triggers but the stock ones are easily adjustable to lighter weights. Mine is set at 2.5lbs.
I wouldn't make a claim that an ADL offered any potential accuracy improvement over a BDL. There's no "theory" involved.
I don't believe Remington offers the ADL at this point and has been replaced by the SPS as the entry level model 700.
I own a 700 ADL in .223 and had the barrel chopped from 24" to 20" and it's fairly accurate for what it is. It's light weight and compact in size.
You'll have no issues installing aftermarket triggers but the stock ones are easily adjustable to lighter weights. Mine is set at 2.5lbs.
I wouldn't make a claim that an ADL offered any potential accuracy improvement over a BDL. There's no "theory" involved.
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No theory, but craploads of anecdotal evidence to the contrary...... Not complete rifles, but components of a build. A stock that is one piece from front to back with no holes other than mounting bolt holes will have less flex and be more rigid than a stock that has a magazine well hole in the middle of it. Wether that mag hole is filled with a DM or a floor plate is immaterial.
IMHO, based on my experience with over 70 Remington model 700 rifles, about equal amounts of ADL vs BDL vs DM configurations.
But opinions are like pants. Everybody has more than one......
So the trigger on the ADL is adjustable?
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If you are able to keep it under 1.5" with factory shells you are doing your part. Not all factory shells either, but one kind...... You should buy a box of everything you can find and see what your rifle shoots.
If you were to bed it a free float the barrel and hand load, I would expect just under an inch.
I would also keep bullet weights under 60 gr. I would hazard a guess that your rifle will really like 40-50gr ammo.....
Ok thanks, and is that at 300 yards? Also what scope do you recommend for these distances. I picked up a Bushnell 3-9x. Do I need more zoom. If so is their a good scope for around $250 that you'd recommend for a new shooter? thank you.
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100 yards.
The bushy 3-9 will be fine at 100y. If you really want to shoot further than that with fine precision, you will want to spend ALOT more than your budget on optics.....
If you want to shoot tiny groups at 300y you will want a scope that likely costs more than your rifle......
For far away shooting I like scopes with 50mm+ objectives, really good light transmission, crisp clear glass and really fine reticle crosshairs. I want to spot my hits without a spotting scope at ranges like 200&300y. This calls for exceptional optics IMHO.
