Need Help!!! 22 Magnum Scope Options? Parallax???

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So I have myself a CZ 455 in 22 mag that looks to be pretty accurate. I have so far only shot it with a Bushnell Banner 4x's Circle X reticle, which has some pretty thick crosshairs, and it's just not cutting it for 100m shooting.

The rifle will be used for targets at 100m but also going to serve as a rabbit, ground hog, and squirrel gun at distances closer to 50m.

The issue for me is not power or scope choice as much as it is Parallax settings. I have pretty much made up my mind that a 2-7x32mm-36mm is the way to go.

I am considering a Vortex Diamondback which comes in a 50m parallax rimfire model, or a centre fire 100m parallax model.

I guess my problem is I have no idea which to choose, and how much difference the Parallax settings are really going to make.

Does the 50m rimfire parallax settings make much difference when reaching out to 100m?

I definitely don't want to sacrifice any clarity or accuracy at 100m, as target shooting is probably going to be the primary use for the gun.

That said I am a headshot kind of guy so I want to know my shots under 100m are going to be dead on as well.

I keep reading about parallax not being a huge issue at low power, and for hunting purposes I would be dialing the magnification back to 3-4 x's. This makes me think it may be a better bet to go with the 100m centrefire for the target shoooting, but I am concerned about the clarity/focus at close distance with shots as close as 20/30m when squirrel hunting.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Also any scope suggestions would be helpful, but I am pretty set on the 2-7x36mm. Size of the scope is a limiting factor as I don't want to lose the iron sights on the gun.

Thanks in advance....
 
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Almost all my scopes are made for centerfire thus having 100yrd parallax. They shoot at least .5" or less at 50 yards. Have no problem hitting shotgun shells at 50 yards all day with them. That said I didnt even know what parallax was until a few months ago. Scope it and shoot it. If you were doing shooting matches it would make a difference I think but for what you said you would use it for dont see it mattering.
 
If the primary use is for target shooting then I think it would matter!! If that is the case go with the 50 yd parellax or go with a/o. If you are mainly going to use it for hunting just go with a rimfire scope or a standard rifle scope, should matter as moa isn't that important.

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I'm with HTH on that, get the scope you want and go for it. The only parallax weirdness I've ever had was on a scope that was an 8-32x (with adjustable objective) and I just couldn't get it to behave @ 100 yards. Specifically, the crosshairs seemed to move when you moved your eye side-to-side, up/down. Almost every scope I've purchased since has also been an adjustable objective but I haven't had the problem since. For all intents and purposes, they function like a focus. If I'm zeroed @ 100 yards then aim at something @ 30 yards, it will appear out of focus. Adjust, and shoot~done. I did used to use a 3-9x with no AO that I kept at 9x and shot at every distance with it, no issues at all. I do think that unless the glass...and your eyes are really good, you may have trouble clearly seeing .22 holes @ 100 yards with a 7x scope. For me, 12x is about the minimum for 100 yard shooting with .22, .17 holes still tough with a 12x. That's sort of my benchmark when choosing a scope~can I see the holes @ 100? :)

When I was choosing a scope for my .22WMR, I decided on a Mueller APT 4-14x40 for a handful of reasons. Glass clarity, fine reticle, price, good reputation...and yes, I can see the holes. :) I have no regrets at all, but if I could change anything about it, it would be the exposed target turrets. I prefer covered ones, as I'm paranoid that they'll move if anything brushes up against them. My last scope purchase was a new Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x40 and for the money, I'm not sure I've ever seen anything better. I'm considering getting the same model in the 6-18x for another rifle.

The Mueller APT (my favorite photo to post these days)

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The Vortex Crossfire II

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Again the scope is limited in length due to the rear sight, and I do not want something big and bulky. Not wanting a bench gun here.....

I am leaning towards a rimfire scope, but just want to be sure that I really don't have any Parallax issues at 100m.

I'm more concerned with small groups at 100m then I am hunting, but don't want to have a fuzzy picture at 30m, and have issues with acccuracy when aiming at tiny squirrel heads.
 
Find an old Leupold scope and send it in and get Korth to set the parallax to 50 or 75 yards.
Best of both worlds.
I bought a Sightron S1 3-9x32 RF.
Can't comment too much on it.
It has the nice light x-hairs.
I should mount it on my CZ 452 to really prove it's worthiness.
Nice and clear, but last time out I found it hard to make the
black ring go away. I had my headphones on as the y'ung bucks
were shooting blap blap balp non stop.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Again the scope is limited in length due to the rear sight, and I do not want something big and bulky. Not wanting a bench gun here.....

I am leaning towards a rimfire scope, but just want to be sure that I really don't have any Parallax issues at 100m.

I'm more concerned with small groups at 100m then I am hunting, but don't want to have a fuzzy picture at 30m, and have issues with acccuracy when aiming at tiny squirrel heads.
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I have a cheap bushnel on my wildcat and cil. Parallax is 100 yards both shoot just over an inch at 100 on a calm day. Both shoot less then .5 at 50 yards. On my cz 455 I have a nikon prostaff 4-12 again 100 yard parallax shoots .3 or less at 30 yards. less then .5 at 50 yards. All of those are 22lr also. I havent noticed a fuzzy image from 1 yard gopher shots and out.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Again the scope is limited in length due to the rear sight, and I do not want something big and bulky. Not wanting a bench gun here.....

I am leaning towards a rimfire scope, but just want to be sure that I really don't have any Parallax issues at 100m.

I'm more concerned with small groups at 100m then I am hunting, but don't want to have a fuzzy picture at 30m, and have issues with acccuracy when aiming at tiny squirrel heads.
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Parallax issue aside, these two things contradict each other a bit...so I can't really put a finger on what your expectations are for a scope. I think a rimfire scope is a terrific idea for a field/hunting gun out to about 75 yards...but a poor choice for a 100m (110 yards) target shooter. A groundhog at 120 yards will look awfully small through a 7x scope if he's only poking out of his hole an inch. My suggestion~buy a 4-12x variable and dial it down to 7x if you're set on that. At least you'll have 12x if you decide to hit a 100m range, or hunt groundhogs.
 
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Parallax issue aside, these two things contradict each other a bit...so I can't really put a finger on what your expectations are for a scope. I think a rimfire scope is a terrific idea for a field/hunting gun out to about 75 yards...but a poor choice for a 100m (110 yards) target shooter. A groundhog at 120 yards will look awfully small through a 7x scope if he's only poking out of his hole an inch. My suggestion~buy a 4-12x variable and dial it down to 7x if you're set on that. At least you'll have 12x if you decide to hit a 100m range, or hunt groundhogs.
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Real good advice here. Good one 22LRGUY
 
I've also been looking for a compact .22 scope that I can shoot targets with, but doesn't make the gun too ridiculous to carry around. I tried half a dozen different scopes on my rimfires but I just can't find anything small that is clear and bright enough for my liking. I ended up sticking with a Mueller APT 4.5x14 and I like it so much I ordered a couple more even though it's big and heavy for a rimfire scope. The best size/clarity compromise I could find was a Nikon P-22 2-7x32 but it is a set 50 yard parallax and isn't nearly as bright as the Mueller.
 
The Simmons 3-9x32 w/AO .22 magnum scope is a great optic for the money. (Mine cost about $75.) I use it very successfully for silhouette matches where the furthest targets are at 100yds. It's easy to adjust for the different distances, clear, holds zero and compact. You would probably have to replace the supplied rings, but otherwise it's good to go.
 
Top scope is a Mueller APV 4.5-14x40 AO ($195) and the bottom scope is a Simmons .22 Mag 3-9x32 AO ($80).

Both are decent AO scopes for rimfires with my nod going to the Mueller for better glass. And as per .22LRGUY wishing the turrets of his APT were covered, they are on the APV.

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