Soften up the No 5 enfield kick???

[cantom]

Try and get your gunstore to order you a "shooters friend" it s a slip on pad that works very well.

Yes! That's exactly what I have and it's great...solves the problem.

http://allaboutshooting.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=280&osCsid=CkAl4w9KPEe0msd7xvDBZ3

 

[purple]

Rather than a slip on recoil boot for the rifle, you might try one of the PAST strap on shoulder pads for yourself. I've been using one for my bench shooting for years and find it works great.

 

[woodchopper]

you will find a huge difference if your firing standing vs firing prone

 

[Steyr1]

Should be holding closer to your 'pit', not on your collar-bone


(addressing 7.62Nato's pic.)

And yes, a shoulder pad even takes the sting out of an 8mm Steyr, which says a lot.

 

[bigedp51]

Greenhorse six

I have a Winchester 94 Trapper model 30-30 with a 16 inch barrel, and I have had it close to 30 years. It has always been a love/hate relationship, I love hunting with it in the woods but hate shooting it from the bench. What it boils down to is I have a Contender 30-30 pistol with a butt stock attached and I do most of my practice shooting standing up.

If you start reloading you will be able to tame your beast with lighter bullets and a faster burning powder, that is more suited to your shorter barrel. Part of your problem is the rocket thrust from a slow burning powder that the factory loads for a longer barrel.

If you want real pain try shooting 500 grain bullets out of a 5 1/2 pound 45-70 Ruger No.3 carbine. A "friend" gave me three 500 grain bullets made for the 458 Winchester Magnum. I fired two round and never fired the third round because I wanted my nose to stop bleeding. (I feel your pain)

 

[purple]

Anticipation of recoil is a huge cause of flinching/trigger yanking/distorted sight picture/inaccuracy so why not eliminate the problem with the aforementioned strap-on recoil pad? Rifles should be enjoyable to shoot and should be shot a lot, especially from the bench in order to develop loads and refine trigger squeeze, holding and aiming. Punishing recoil and the resulting flinch is the enemy of all of this. Flinch can be avoided by wearing a recoil pad and ear protection. To check for flinching at the range have a friend load or not load your rifle and then pass it to you to shoot. If you have a flinch you will see it immediately as you jerk the rifle off point of aim when dropping the hammer on an empty chamber. To develop consistent trigger squeeze and hold do a lot of dry firing from the bench. Poor trigger squeeze and improper hold will be very evident when the x hairs jump off the point of aim as you dry fire.

 

[boltonscouter]

Reduced loads and 100 grain pistol bullets will make the old hard rubber butt softer.

Now this is VERY interesting! Do you have any pet or starting load data you'd be wiling to share????

 

[bigedp51]

Now this is VERY interesting! Do you have any pet or starting load data you'd be wiling to share????

I use these loads primarily for fire forming the .303 brass and then headspacing on the shoulder and not the rim of the case to extend case life. A small thin rubber o-ring is slipped over the case, when the bolt is closed the compressed o-ring centers the case in the rear of the chamber and holds the case against the bolt face.

Once the case is fire formed it headspaces on the shoulder of the case and then the shoulder of the case will hold the case against the bolt face and thus preventing case stretch in the web area.

A .303 case forming and file trim die can be used as a shoulder bump die when the neck sized cases start to close hard in the chamber.

You can use SR 4759 or Trail Boss for your reduced loads, the load data came from the Number Nine Speer manual using a .308 100 grain plinker bullet and 4759 powder. The load with the 100 grain .308 plinker was 16 to 20 grains of SR 4759. NOTE: With a 150 grain .303 bullet the load was 21 to 25 grains of SR4759 so the lighter load is very safe with .312 pistol bullets.

For the Trail Boss load just go to the Hodgdons web site and look at the Trail Boss reduced loads and use the 70% rule as your starting load.

You can shoot hundreds of reduced rounds and the brass butt plate or rubber butt plate of the Enfield rifle will be as soft as warm butter. I ruptured a disk in my neck in 1992 and even after disk surgery I became a little recoil sensitive but found ways to sill enjoy shooting.

And a mouse gun has very little recoil. (but sadly throws perfectly good brass away)

 

[antiqueguy]

I use these loads primarily for fire forming the .303 brass and then headspacing on the shoulder and not the rim of the case to extend case life. A small thin rubber o-ring is slipped over the case, when the bolt is closed the compressed o-ring centers the case in the rear of the chamber and holds the case against the bolt face.


Once the case is fire formed it headspaces on the shoulder of the case and then the shoulder of the case will hold the case against the bolt face and thus preventing case stretch in the web area

A .303 case forming and file trim die can be used as a shoulder bump die when the neck sized cases start to close hard in the chamber.

You can use SR 4759 or Trail Boss for your reduced loads, the load data came from the Number Nine Speer manual using a .308 100 grain plinker bullet and 4759 powder. The load with the 100 grain .308 plinker was 16 to 20 grains of SR 4759. NOTE: With a 150 grain .303 bullet the load was 21 to 25 grains of SR4759 so the lighter load is very safe with .312 pistol bullets.

For the Trail Boss load just go to the Hodgdons web site and look at the Trail Boss reduced loads and use the 70% rule as your starting load.

You can shoot hundreds of reduced rounds and the brass butt plate or rubber butt plate of the Enfield rifle will be as soft as warm butter. I ruptured a disk in my neck in 1992 and even after disk surgery I became a little recoil sensitive but found ways to sill enjoy shooting.

And a mouse gun has very little recoil. (but sadly throws perfectly good brass away)

hmm that powder charge is interesting ive been using 6gr of red dot under a lee cast .312 bullet and the same load for .312 xtps

 

[bigedp51]

hmm that powder charge is intresting ive been using 6gr of red dot under a lee cast .312 bullet and the same load for .312 xtps

The SR4759 and Trail Boss loads have much better loading density and are not position sensitive and are impossible to double charge. I hate miniscule mouse fart loads and worrying about double charging.

 

[purple]

I second SR4759 for reduced loads. I've shot a pee-pot full of it in .30-06 and .308 bolt guns and it is excellent. Little known fact; it was the MILSPEC propellant for reduced charge .30-06 rounds loaded with frangible bullets which were used to train air gunners by firing at Bell P-39 and P-63 fighters, AKA "the flying pinball machines".