Getting the lead out... Home brew style!

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Shot my first home casts last weekend out of my 9mm, and wound up leading the barrel pretty badly. I think it was my over zealous factory crimping along with the hot titegroup powder that was responsible... but that's another thread:)

It took a LOT of scrubbing to get clean, and I figured that there had to be a better way to remove lead. I have come across some mechanical devices which look like they would work well, but I also came across a home brew of 50/50 vinegar hydrogen peroxide that sounds like it really works.

My question is... anyone using this concoction to de-lead their barrels? Apparently you just let the barrel soak and the lead wipes out. The resulting slurry is quite poisonous, so caution in using it is well advised.

I'm asking out of curiosity... not because I plan to continuously lead my barrel!:D
 
Just plug one end, and fill the other end up with mercury.

What... doesn't everyone do it like this?

;)

Interesting about H202 and vinegar... might need to try that some day!
 
soak in hoppes #9 , or warm the barrel with a propane tourch , mercury works best . i've talked to guys that have used the 50/50 & they say it works great .
 
What? Nobody uses choreboys here? A couple strands of choreboy copper or bronze scouring pad wrapped around an old bore brush and away you go.

Strips out lead like butta.
 
The 50/50 vinegar/ hydrogen peroxide cleans lead out really good, but..... it also etches steel! Do a little test to see for yourself, put a shiny piece of steel in this solution for a couple hours. I used a chisel, took the sharp edge right off.
 
i guess you just look at your guns and don't shoot them then?

warming the barrel with a torch, when done properly, won't do anything 100 rounds would do.


I just prefer the flame to be on the inside and brief.... I had never heard of using a torch as a cleaning method for firearms before.
 
As stated above in one of the posts. Safeway sells a real copper scrubing chore boy. Get yourseld one and cut it up and wrap a little of it around an old bore vrush and you will be very surprised how easy the lead will come out of your bore.

Graydog
 
Holy crap... I was kidding about the mercury... Some old timers actually DO clean a barrel that way???? Haha you guys are nuts!

I guess with proper precautions it's not THAT unsafe, but I plan on living a long time yet. ;)
 
The 50/50 vinegar/ hydrogen peroxide cleans lead out really good, but..... it also etches steel! Do a little test to see for yourself, put a shiny piece of steel in this solution for a couple hours. I used a chisel, took the sharp edge right off.

I've also read/heard that for some reason, this solution is easily absorbed through skin/not real healthy. So wear gloves to be on the safe side if you try this.
 
but I also came across a home brew of 50/50 vinegar hydrogen peroxide that sounds like it really works.

My question is... anyone using this concoction to de-lead their barrels? Apparently you just let the barrel soak and the lead wipes out. The resulting slurry is quite poisonous, so caution in using it is well advised.

The 50/50 vinegar/ hydrogen peroxide cleans lead out really good, but..... it also etches steel! Do a little test to see for yourself, put a shiny piece of steel in this solution for a couple hours. I used a chisel, took the sharp edge right off.

I've also read/heard that for some reason, this solution is easily absorbed through skin/not real healthy. So wear gloves to be on the safe side if you try this.


When you mix vinegar and hydrogen peroxide you get Peracetic Acid

Yes it does work, but it doesn't touch the lead in the least, it corrodes the barrel steel which then releases the lead. You can do the same with any diluted acid. But, do you want to?
 
Found this on castboolits:

If you decide to use the peroxide/vinegar lead removal method, here are some things you will find useful:

With use of proper precautions Vinegar/peroxide (mixed 50/50) can be used to remove lead from the bore.

With some salt or Clorox mixed in (not to be used in firearm bores) the mixture is often used to etch steel reproduction items to match original finishes. This mixture will ‘frost’ a clean piece of metal in 30 minutes or less to provide a finish that equals 120 years of rust and wear. While the same mix sans the salt or Clorox when used as a lead remover is not as corrosive, you still must use extreme caution if you intend to use a vinegar/peroxide mix to remove lead from the bore of your firearm.

Be careful about mixing hydrogen peroxide and vinegar, it produces per-acetic acid. Per-acetic acid, while commonly used as a sanitizer on food processing equipment, is very corrosive to some metals. It is definitely not safe to use on brass or copper alloys, and will damage both carbon and galvanized steel. When it breaks down it will leave an acetic acid residue on metal surfaces. When we use this mix to remove leading from the bore of a firearm, in dissolving the lead deposits, it produces lead acetate () which is extremely poisonous (). Hydrogen peroxide raises the lead valence from zero to plus two, so that a minus one from the acidic acid ion initiates a rapid lead ‘rusting’ process, making grey colored lead acetate which is not sticky and therefore bubbles out. It cannot be stressed strongly enough that this grey liquid is pure () poison, so do this well away from areas where food is (or will be) grown, prepared or stored and wear rubber gloves. The mixture can however be used to remove excessive lead buildup from the bore of your firearm, if you are careful. The first thing to do is to remove as much of the lead buildup as possible using (approximately) a 30” strand taken from a ‘chore boy/girl’ pot scrubber (just use a magnet to be sure the material really is copper and not just coated) wrapped round a worn out bore brush. Prior to pouring the mixture into the barrel, the barrel must be dry (no oil or other lube). To begin, clean the barrel with Ed’s red or a similar cleaner of your choice and then use rubbing alcohol on a bore mop or rag to remove any residual oil. The vinegar/peroxide mixture can be applied using a clean bore mop or it can be poured in to almost fill the bore as long as the chamber is tightly plugged. The mixture must not be allowed to come into contact with the exterior finish of the firearm, therefore, if you are pouring it in, do not fill the bore to the top as the stuff foams up and it will run over if it is too full. As noted above, this mixture has the potential to damage the bore so allow a two minute maximum soak for the 50/50 vinegar/peroxide mix to work and then wash out the barrel with tap water. Do not use distilled or deionized water. Under some circumstances using distilled water will create lead () bi-acetate or () tri-acetate, either of which are deadly () poisons, so make sure the water you use is somewhat tainted. To be sure, add a quarter teaspoon of salt per quart of water. You may have to repeat the process a number of times depending on the amount of leading present. Run the chore boy through again and if the barrel is lead free, rinse with really hot tap water. Use a hair dryer or other heat source to be sure the barrel is moisture free and then use a water displacing oil such as WD 40.
 
When you mix vinegar and hydrogen peroxide you get Peracetic Acid

Yes it does work, but it doesn't touch the lead in the least, it corrodes the barrel steel which then releases the lead. You can do the same with any diluted acid. But, do you want to?

LISTEN to this^^ Been there done that! It DOES attack the metal. The vinegar will do a number on any bluing too.
 
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