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Does anyone else have issues with the Tavor beating up brass. I've had my Tavor for about 1 month and I've noticed that all my used brass has a dent in the middle of the case. Is this normal or do I have a problem. Thanks
 
That depends, has your Tavor been consorting with Swiss arms rifles?

Just kidding, the Tavor crowd will be along shortly to answer your question;)
 
I've shot the heck out of mine and it doesn't do that, however, I am running mostly MFS steel cased so that may be why. I will try and get out today with a few boxes of brass and let you know.
 
I occasionally notice a small divot in the mouth of the case. Other than that, my brass comes out shiny fine.

Funny, I used to get center dents like you were describing last year when I was getting failure to feeds and having to mash the charging handle.
 
I played with mine a bit this morning (Tavor that is). Is it possible the bolt carrier is running over the next round in the mag a little hard or something and causing a bit of a gouge in the case?

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I noticed my brass having more dents then my 45-70 or my bolt guns, but just chalked it up to them being fired from a semi. I closely inspected a bunch from my first batch and didn't see any reason I wouldn't reload 99% of the brass I picked up. Haven't put much more thought into it yet.
 
My Type 97 used to beat the hell out of brass. Here's a very old pic.
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So I did a small test, and while I didn't take any pictures (was -22 outside and no way in heck was I taking my gloves off to use my iPhone), I noticed that the Winchester .223 I had came out perfectly fine, but when I ran some hot S&B 5.56 through it, it ejected the brass much more violently, spitting it forward like the gun was intended to. Looks to me like hotter ammunition hitting the brass deflector is what's causing the dents. Can anyone else try this out and let me know what happens?
 
I don't own a tavor but it sounds like the brass deflector is dinging them. Just have a look at it and if it has brass colour on it then that is your culprit. Try a piece of thin foam tape or rubber electrical splice tape on it and try a couple shots. If it works you will need to replace it regularly but its cheap.
If there is any way to adjust the gas system on the rifle reduce the gas a little to slow down the bolt slightly.
Some semis are just hard on brass and you'll just have to live with it. It's the cost you have to pay for the manufacturer making a non adjustable gas system that will cycle any ammo you throw in it.

Good luck
 

At the end of the video there is some slow motion close ups of the rifle ejecting brass. Its pretty clear to see that where the brass is hitting the deflector is about where the dents are. Its good to see for sure why its happening.
 
Clobbersauras said:
My Type 97 used to beat the hell out of brass. Here's a very old pic.
Type97review004.jpg
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If you think thats beat up, you should see what the Swiss does too brass ;)

ActiveShooter said:
Beats brass up a bit, case mouth gets a slight dent, I'd still reload them
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ActiveShooter: Your bringing that Tavor to the range session this weekend?? I'm eager to send a few rounds down range through it :)
 
*Watches video*, wow yeah, that's some pretty advanced timing going on there. I could tune an AR to avoid that, but I know nothing about Tavor mechanics.

I'm guessing the brass warpage bothers you because you plan to reload. You could still reload those rounds, but they'd probably have to be FL'ed to iron them out. Any dents would get blown out upon firing. That being said, in theory, you may be able to work up a load that tunes the ejection to avoid that. It may not be a case of hot load versus light load, as much as a case of fast powder vs slow powder. Question is, if that same load could also be the most accurate.
 
its really a non issue, that dented brass is very easily reloadable if that's what you wish to do. Its denting on exit, some brass dents worse than others. Really no big deal. Tuning it to change the ejection rate is really focussing on the wrong aspect of shooting, which should be where the projectile lands, not where the brass lands in my limited opinion anyhow.
 
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