Top Ten best WW2 rifles!

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I guys, it's my first post here!

I was wondering if you all can share your top ten list of WW2 rifles. Thoses you must have!! I do not include automatic rifle, cause you cant have it in canada but bolt action are way better accordig to me :p.

Let me see your choice!
 
I guys, it's my first post here!

I was wondering if you all can share your top ten list of WW2 rifles. Thoses you must have!! I do not include automatic rifle, cause you cant have it in canada but bolt action are way better accordig to me :p.

Let me see your choice!

Who says you can not have an automatic rifle in Canada ? I live in Canada and have several non restricted semi autos.
 
#1 Lee Enfield SMLE
#2 K98 German Mauser
#3 Lee Enfield #4 Mk 1*
#4 M1 Garand
#5 Mosin Nagant 91/30
#6 SVT 40
#7 Steyr M95
#8 M1 Carbine
#9 Italian Carcano 1891
#10 German K43

In no particular order, because I love them all!
 
some i have used some i have not. but my list would go: for bolts. for all time best the M1 garand


Enfield #4
Mauser 98K
enfield #1
mosin nagant full size
arisaka 99
mosin m44
arisaka 38
carcano
bethier

not sure what i would pic for 10 but the #4 out does all of the others by far.easy to use and accurate peep sight, 10 round mag easy to charge, makes the biggest hole, reliability,cost is low, rugged. just the best.
 
Semi and Auto are two different words. Semi automatics and full automatics are both automatics.

I don't think so!!! Not in the eyes of the law.

Semi-auto: One trigger pull, one shot fired.

Full-auto: Pull the trigger and bullets are fired till the clip is empty.

There is a difference.
 
I don't think so!!! Not in the eyes of the law.

Semi-auto: One trigger pull, one shot fired.

Full-auto: Pull the trigger and bullets are fired till the clip is empty.

There is a difference.

They both reload automatically, that's what makes both of them automatics.

Bullets are never fired from a clip, they are fired from a firearm with or without a magazine.
 
Ruling out the Garand and stg 44 which would be my top two if semi/full auto allowed, and the P-14 and M1917s as leftovers (however how good) from WWI the order would be:

No4 Mk1 Enfield
1903a3 Springfield
MAS 36
No1 MkIII Enfield*
M39 Finn Mosin
1903 Springfield*
98K Mauser
Arisakas Type 38 & 99
91/30 Mosin
M1941 Carcano

* WWI designs made during WWII

I have shot everything on my list so subjective handling on my part figures into the evaluation as well as design & features
 
If you evaluate the rifles (not machine guns or SMGs) that were used by a large percentage of combat troops, common enough, thereby eliminating the G43, STG-44, then it has to be this in terms of major military powers.

1. M1 Garand - semi auto, accurate and reliable enough.
2. SVT-40 - semi auto. Some reliability issues though with the Russian troops.
3. Enfield No.4 - fast action, 10rds, accurate and reliable enough.
4. K98 - has everything (accurate, reliable) but I think 5rds is a big minus. 8mm is also overkill. Disclaimer - While they are beautiful rifles and well made, K98 aficionados tend to over value them for military purposes. You don't need such a heavy expensive rifle. In a firefight where seconds matter it's bolt action and 5rd limit is one world war too late.
5. Springfield 1903 - For a WW1 rifle made again for WW2 it is the best 5rd bolt action after the K98.
6. Arisaka type 38 - 6.5 was a caliber ahead of its time.
7. Mosin Nagant 91/30 - not exceptional in anything but did the job. Millions of dead/wounded Germans would agree.
8. Arisaka type 99 - Not the last ditch stuff rushed in production. I think the 6.5 of the 38 and its greater length beats the 7.7 and shorter barrel of the 99.
9. Carcano - Too bad the Italians were so poorly led - their rifles were not half bad. Not great, but not that bad. 6.5 is the best feature of it.
10. M1 Carbine - Using a pistolish round in a rifle is never a good idea. Had they made it into an SMG, like the M1A1 for paratroopers, it would have made more sense.

If you consider the STG-44 and G-43 then put them as 1,2 and put everything else down accordingly.

Not considering the Enfield No.5 or Mosin 44 as they came out too late in the war and likely not even in my top ten anyways.

Not looking at neutrals, or rifles that did not make it to mass production.

I considered putting the MAS 36 as #10, but I have fired it and thought it was an ackward action. Also. The greatest roll over, save perhaps Operation Desert Storm in 91', was the invasion of France in 1940. Despite the advantage of men, tanks, most everything, and being on the defense the Germans licked them in 6 weeks. I have to think this rifle had something to do with it. I consider it a curse to even own it! :)
 
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This again?

I would challenge you to provide parameters. If "rifle" includes any an all small arms issued in the war, top place has to go to the StG44 - all modern military rifles are derived from it's concept of operations. And yes, semi-auto versions are available in Canada.

Next, what are you using to evaluate the "rest"? A lot of people are parroting the M1 as the top choice, but I would argue the M1 does not deserve this distinction for a myriad reasons, not the least of which was its produce-ability. It consumed an inordinate percentage of war materiel production resources to build with virtually every wartime component requitring expensive specialty machining. In a war where the largest killer was artillery, not the infantry rifle, similar capability was fielded for much less resource expenditure by both the Germans (K43) and the Russians (SVT40). Those designs made much better use of stampings and castings and loose tolerances in non-critical components than the M1, were far less complex, and had their users been similar to the US in terms of available manufacturing and training resource, would quite likely have been more prolific designs.

Or are you instead talking about longevity of service? If so, have to go with the Enfield (any variant).

Ease of use? Mosin.

See my point?
 
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This is another "How long is a piece of string" thread. Everyone will provide a differnet list for different reasons.

I will say this though. The 1903 was the best target range bolt action rifle ever made. The K98K was the best hunting bolt action rifle ever made. The Lee Enfield was the best combat bolt action rifle ever made.
 
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