Basic training for a newb

Fergus Kahn

Fergus Kahn

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Hey CGN'ers.
I'm new to firearms and building up a passion for it quickly. I am looking forward to getting in to some competition shooting, which type of competition is yet TBD. I am very inexperienced, I have gone to a range a couple times with a friend and also to T.S.E. in Alberta (where the range officer working told me I should get in to competition, whether that was a sales gimmick or not I took it seriously lol). I don't have my RPAL yet, I'm getting the courses starting tomorrow and will immediately send my paperwork in.

I am just wondering if their are any good sites or youtube channels or anything really that can give me some solid advise on basics. I'm talking foundations, such as proper grip, stance, trigger pull and so on...

Since I don't have my RPAL yet and consequently don't easily have a resource to start drills I'm just looking for beginner info to pass the time while I wait. Any suggestions?

Thanks!:cheers:
 
There is ton of information out there, just gotta look:). First start off with .22lr rifle or pistol.

Just go to youtube and type in training with firearm, etc.
Also look up Chris Costa, hes amazing and has some good dvd out there, check Amazon.com.

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Also here is some more, now all is opinion, and there are many different ways to train, etc. But take it all in and see what helps you.

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To own restricteds your gonna have to be a gun club member, and seeing that your listed as living in Halifax, AMA gun club in Halifax has a lot of shooters/competitors there that could probably lead you in the right direction. So if your looking into getting into competition you might want to look into joining that club, you have to join one regardless so its a no brainer.
 
Ditto on checking out the clubs in the area.

I found the AMA's calender and it looks like they have an active IPSC group but that they don't hold any full day IPSC matches. They've got some inhouse league and that's about it.

You may want to look at a club which actually hosts and holds matches. Either IPSC, IDPA or Steel Challenge or something of the sort even at a club level. I'm not saying NOT to check out and possibly join the AMA group. Just that they don't seem to be set up to actually host a match.
 
Like anything in life those with talent can do with ease what others find difficult,genius is being able to do what talent finds impossible.
 
Welcome to CGN!

I don't believe I've had a chance to spam you yet. Here I go!

Welcome to CGN, a great place to come for firearm technical info, legal info, and current events.

If you have a question that just can't wait for an answer, be sure to try the search function.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/search.php?search_type=1

If you have any questions about the legal aspects of owning and using firearms, you'll find a good resource in the 'stickies' at the top of the list here:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?90-Legalese

As a new member, please do your best to represent the firearms community well. Here are a few things that often get a new guy into trouble: Not keeping the language clean, discussing illegal activities, and writing things which could reflect poorly on the community at large. Don't be offended if people are suspicious of you if you ask strange questions. It is not uncommon for antis (aka gun grabbers, aka the civil disarmament crowd) to cause trouble and stir up controversy on the forum. Sometimes the people here might confuse you for one of those people. Try to be forgiving of that because CGN has a lot to offer, whether you are a new shooter, or a veteran lead-slinger.

If you have a genuine interest in the rights of Canadian firearm owners, I'd encourage you to look into joining one or more of our national orgs. The two most popular are:
CSSA & NFA

With a little bit of research you will see just how much these orgs do to protect our rights. Not only that, but each offers insurance for legal firearm activities. Your money goes a long way to help the cause, but you would not believe how far having your name on the list goes in strengthening our position.

I'd also like to add this: The plight of the Canadian firearm community has been largely ignored by the Canadian media. About two years ago a new news network called http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca busted onto the scene.
The Sun News Network is a vocal advocate for our gun rights, so I urge you to do what you can to support them.
Sun supports us, so please show them some love. Maybe even buy something from their advertisers or something. I think this summer I might work on my TapouT XT muscle body, or buy one of those expanding/shrinking hoses, or the body hair zapper!

Once again, welcome. Shoot safe and have fun!

Trig

This is the first book I ever bought on pistol technique, so I suppose that's why I recomend it. Lots of pictures, good descriptions, a bit of humor, written by a retired combat vet; Kyle Lamb.
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Also, here's a diagnostic technique target for right-handed shooters. Stable it up, shoot it, read it, improve.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I have been doing some research the last few months while I've been waiting to take the course so I have seen a few things around. Most of the stuff Ive found so far is how to move, draw, and more tactical stuff whereas I really want some down to dirt basics so I can start off on the right foot and not get to ahead of myself developing bad habits.

SlimTim said:
To own restricteds your gonna have to be a gun club member, and seeing that your listed as living in Halifax, AMA gun club in Halifax has a lot of shooters/competitors there that could probably lead you in the right direction. So if your looking into getting into competition you might want to look into joining that club, you have to join one regardless so its a no brainer.
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I am seriously looking at AMA, I am in the Halifax area and the two times I've been to a range, other than The Shooting Edge, were each of the AMA ranges as a guest. Just waiting for a few spare dollars to apply for my membership.

enefgee said:
Try this; pistol-training.com.
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I took a quick look at pistol-training.com but didn't have time to search the depths of the forum yet but will definetly do that.

Trigger_The_Rookie said:
Also, here's a diagnostic technique target for right-handed shooters. Stable it up, shoot it, read it, improve.
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I did see the correction chart hanging up at the AMA range so I'll be looking more seriously at that once I get myself a firearm that I can get familiar with instead of just putting a few rounds through a variety of other peoples guns.

Thanks again for all the replies! I appreciate the input!!
 
Shooting confirms how good or how poor you are. Training is a process to train the subconscious to do the task properly. the best training is dry firing a lot.

Say, a half hour each day. You can aim at a mark on the wall.

But, you can get good at shooting the wrong way (no coaching) or have an instructor teach you a stance, a hold and a proper sight picture and let off - and then practice that, dry firing.

When you let a perfect shot go (click, with sights aligned on target and no flinch - congratulate yourself. As you practice, you will get more good ones than bad ones.

later, when you have to get good a mag changes, drawing the pistol, etc. , dry runs are where you learn the most.
 
I was in your situation not all that long ago, what i did to give me training/shooting time, i would get some private coaching. This even months before getting pal/rpal
That way you get to learn the right way off the start, get some trigger time (directly supervised by coach and you would be guest at range) and learn many things
I do not regret going thru some of my learning exp this way
 
I am gonna start out with a .22 so I can get rid of the flinch or make sure I don't develop it. I've heard it's a bad idea to dry fire a rimfire handgun so what I might do is get a 9mm and pick up a .22 conversion for it. I know thats not overly recommended either but I really don't want to jump right in to a 9mm or .45 without getting some good training in first, and I like the idea of the natural progression to a higher calibre using the exact same pistol.
I've been looking at the sig 226.
 
MartyK2500 said:
i would get some private coaching. This even months before getting pal/rpal. That way you get to learn the right way off the start, get some trigger time (directly supervised by coach and you would be guest at range) and learn many things
I do not regret going thru some of my learning exp this way
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I would love if I had the resources to do that. Does any body from NS know of anyone around Halifax that would do that kind of coaching?


YAAAAA!! (Sorry penguins just scored :D! )
 
Mr. Kahn,

The amount and variety of training is somewhat daunting. There are a few things that you will have to do in order to buy a restricted firearm. Joining a club is one of them and you will have to take their safety course. Think of all these requirements as building blocks. Some may seem repetitive or not terribly relevant at first but keep putting one foot in front of the other. Buying your first handgun is somewhat of a critical point because the various shooting disciplines require somewhat different equipment. Spend some time talking with established shooters and get a feel of where you would like to be within a reasonable time. My research revealed that competitive shooting was in the cards and that IPSC shooting had the most appeal. Since equipment requirements for IPSC are clearly laid out, that dictated my choice for my first pistol. As the firearm is one of your biggest expenses, it make sense to buy one that will fit you for the reasonable future.

Go to the club of your choice before making too many decisions and talk with the members. Shooters are very generous with their time and most of us take a real interest in newcomers. I suspect that every club has several members that enjoy the "mentoring" role. I know that was the case in the first club that I joined. Within a few months I earned my Black Badge and qualified for IPSC. I was 65 years old and so fast tracked everything. A year later, I was shooting competitions both in Canada and the US where I spend every winter. A lot of what I have achieved was with the help of good people at my club and the huge amount of information available on forums like this one. Perhaps the best use of your early months would be surveying all the options and coming to some understanding of your preferences. Once you have a few goals in mind, you are on your way and won't be short of help and advice.

Gord
 
Just found a great channel on youtube that has a long running series on competition shooting starting right from the ground level of choosing equipment up to advanced techniques. There is about 117 episodes and counting and each one is anywhere from 15 min to an hour. Don't know the quality of them but they have 4500 or so subs so cant be too bad! It looks like it is mainly for IDPA but would be very useful for IPSC as well I would imagine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ceh7vq6Ag

For anyone else who is interested
 
This looks to be an excellent find! IDPA and IPSC are similar but different particularly with respect to equipment rules. Survey your area for clubs that feature one or the other. Handguns that are suitable for IDPA will likely be OK for IPSC but the reverse may not be so. Generally the equipment in IDPA is simpler and less costly. When you get to a club, make note of what equipment the members use and ask questions. Items like holsters, belts and mag pouches can add up to a significant expense. Don't forget about eye and ear protection. Many shooters use electronic hearing protection as it's important to be able to hear range commands at more or less normal conversation levels. Knowledge is usually free but mistakes can be expensive. Ammo costs are probably the biggest expense for many shooters so consider this when chosing a caliber.
 
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