One Of 4 Lever .22's... Can't Decide, HELP!

Thank god it is new you are after...believe me....I`m after a lever, but would rather something old, there is nothing to be had.
 
TIME has already TOLD.

I applaud your conviction but will stick with my own. Henry does have a good warranty, much better than Erma ever would have, but 1996 does not count as "time being told" to me. Zamak, according to Wiki, is held to a higher standard than "pot metal" by the constant 4% aluminium. Would I buy one? Not likely, but I certainly don't begrudge anyone else for doing so.
Zamac IS a zinc alloy. I worked in a die cast factory for years. Tends to be soft and brittle, can't believe they've used in a rifle action. If you want to know what it is, check the door handles on your car; if they aren't plastic then they're zinc (zamac).

Thanks for the info 9.3!
 
Zamac IS a zinc alloy. I worked in a die cast factory for years. Tends to be soft and brittle, can't believe they've used in a rifle action. If you want to know what it is, check the door handles on your car; if they aren't plastic then they're zinc (zamac).

Yes, Zamac is a zinc alloy that is not in dispute... my point is that it has been used for many years and has proven itself in the Henry actions... I have no comment on other applications... but I do have alot of experience with the alloy as a lever action receiver alloy... and it functions well and with incredible smoothness... alot of people feel that way about plastic as well (myself included at times) even though in certain applications it has proven to be superior to other metals in use... don't get me wrong, I am not saying that zamac is superior to billett steel or aluminum... I am saying that it is sufficient for the purpose and helps Henry to deliver an awesome product at an awesome price point... the proof is in the pudding, the approval rating of Henry owners is among the highest in the industry.
 
Hoytcanon - it is funny, and goes to show how tasted vary, but I like the BL22 for the qualities that are a negative in your eyes!
 
Hoytcanon - it is funny, and goes to show how tasted vary, but I like the BL22 for the qualities that are a negative in your eyes!


Yep... to each their own... that's why there are so many makes, models and calibers... but I am going to make it a point to speak out on how I feel about "short throw" levers... I am tired of it being sold as a glowing "positive" feature when it is not positive for everyone's taste... certainly not mine... having said that, I have NO intention of selling either of my BL's... I just love lever guns of all sorts... every once in a while, when being attacked by armies of beer cans, the BL's come out to play.
 
The alloy is Zamac... and they have never had one fail... I personally believe that the alloy used contributes to the actions smoothness... have you used one personally? I ask because of the online "parroting" that goes on regarding problems or benefits with particular firearm features... there was another thread recently where a poster sounded off on how "crappy" a specific gun was... and it turned out that he had never owned or used one... I am sure it was not the first and it won't be the last time that happens.

I haven't used one, but I haven't been impressed by the ones I've seen. I can accept that non-traditional materials like aluminum and some plastics can be legitimate gun-making materials, but zinc (aka pot metal) is a deal-killer for me. This is the same sort of stuff used to make low-quality pistols by companies like Lorcin or Hi-Point. The Henry just doesn't make sense to me; if cost is an issue, I think that any of the various entry level bolt actions or semi-autos are a better value. If you want something nicer, a couple hundred bucks more is trivial for something that you should be able to get decades of use from.
 
I haven't used one , but I haven't been impressed by the ones I've seen. I can accept that non-traditional materials like aluminum and some plastics can be legitimate gun-making materials, but zinc (aka pot metal) is a deal-killer for me. This is the same sort of stuff used to make low-quality pistols by companies like Lorcin or Hi-Point. The Henry just doesn't make sense to me; if cost is an issue, I think that any of the various entry level bolt actions or semi-autos are a better value. If you want something nicer, a couple hundred bucks more is trivial for something that you should be able to get decades of use from.

And there you have it.

I will go on record saying that any of you nay sayers... had better not take one out shooting... how embarassing that would be for you to have a pot metal gun in your safe.
 
And there you have it.

I will go on record saying that any of you nay sayers... had better not take one out shooting... how embarassing that would be for you to have a pot metal gun in your safe.

And there you have it. I don't need to shoot one to know I don't like it, regardless of how well it shoots. To each his own, but cheaply made guns just don't interest me.
 
And there you have it.

I will go on record saying that any of you nay sayers... had better not take one out shooting... how embarassing that would be for you to have a pot metal gun in your safe.

And there you have what? I've never used an axis further than handling, and dryfiring, it in a store. I still can tell it's a cheap piece of junk. They may be functional, that I won't dispute, but that doesn't change the fact the are cheap, flimsy and generally inferior to a better bolt action. A guy doesn't have to buy one and shoot it to tell that.
 
Ok ok guys. To each their own. The Henry rifles seem to be just fine for their application. The Brownings seem to be great to get a bit more roughed up. But for tin cans and the occasionaly Gopher, I don't think the target will care if it's a $300 or $600 gun. I plan to keep it for a long time. Let's be honest, steel is such a by-gone material these days. It rusts. I'm really surprised they don't make .22 receivers in carbon fiber, or heat treated aluminium.
 
And there you have what? I've never used an axis further than handling, and dryfiring, it in a store. I still can tell it's a cheap piece of junk. They may be functional, that I won't dispute, but that doesn't change the fact the are cheap, flimsy and generally inferior to a better bolt action. A guy doesn't have to buy one and shoot it to tell that.
Shhhhh, the coyotes might hear that and laugh at me the next time I`m out....on second thought...tell these guys what you just mentioned....see if they reply.
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And there you have what? I've never used an axis further than handling, and dryfiring, it in a store. I still can tell it's a cheap piece of junk. They may be functional, that I won't dispute, but that doesn't change the fact the are cheap, flimsy and generally inferior to a better bolt action. A guy doesn't have to buy one and shoot it to tell that.

All these opinions based on an impression... I OWN 94/22, 94/22M, Marlin Mounties, 39A's, BL-22's, AND Henry's... so I know what their quality is... the fact that they have an alloy receiver has nothing to do with the overall quality of the gun... Because the receivers have been well proven... they function properly and with sufficient strength for the purpose... These Henry lever action rifles are very well made, very solid and SMOOTHER than any of my other lever action rifles... that is my informed opinion and was not formulated by staring at a gunstore rack... it was formulated by running many dozens of bricks of ammo through them... Do you really think that any company in this litigious day and age and competitive market place can afford to put out an unsafe firearm, or one which they will be replacing in short order... and they will replace it... Henry has one of the best customer service records in the business. But having said that, you are entitled to your opinion... I hope that I have said just enough so that anyone reading the thread is not misguided by uninformed and untested statements. Good shooting.
 
Shhhhh, the coyotes might hear that and laugh at me the next time I`m out....on second thought...tell these guys what you just mentioned....see if they reply.

Hey, I said they were functional. Decently accurate by most accounts. Doesn't mean they arn't cheap, flimsy and rough. If it works for you I'm fine with that, I was just saying it is possible to form a solid opinion on something at first glance.

All these opinions based on an impression... I OWN 94/22, 94/22M, Marlin Mounties, 39A's, BL-22's, AND Henry's... so I know what their quality is... the fact that they have an alloy receiver has nothing to do with the overall quality of the gun... Because the receivers have been well proven... they function properly and with sufficient strength for the purpose... These Henry lever action rifles are very well made, very solid and SMOOTHER than any of my other lever action rifles... that is my informed opinion and was not formulated by staring at a gunstore rack... it was formulated by running many dozens of bricks of ammo through them... Do you really think that any company in this litigious day and age and competitive market place can afford to put out an unsafe firearm, or one which they will be replacing in short order... and they will replace it... Henry has one of the best customer service records in the business. But having said that, you are entitled to your opinion... I hope that I have said just enough so that anyone reading the thread is not misguided by uninformed and untested statements. Good shooting.

I said nothing of Henry rifles.
 
Hey, I said they were functional. Decently accurate by most accounts. Doesn't mean they arn't cheap, flimsy and rough. If it works for you I'm fine with that, I was just saying it is possible to form a solid opinion on something at first glance.



I said nothing of Henry rifles.

If its functional would that no make it NOT a piece of junk. Have you seen the god awful punishment jerry at mystic precision put one through and I believe the rifle is still kicking.. My 2 have been through hell and back and still shoot MOA. I believe the stock was built flimsy to take the abuse. Rather than breaking it bends.. But you can judge a book by its cover if you want and just ignore the best by for a bolt rifle in today's market
 
The Marlin 39A is the best of the bunch, you can easily scope or put a peep on the flat top reciever! Lucky guy! Need a girl like that in my life. cheers Dale Z!
 
I think you are confused... Go back and reread the thread from my comment that you quoted and what the subject was... You'll see what I mean...

I merely agreed with buddy that, in some cases, one can judge a book by it's cover. I then supplied Anecdotal evidence thereof. Don't take that to mean I agreed with his conclusions of Henry rifles.
 
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