My newest somme battle field pick ups
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Glock22Guy
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Battlefield junk is more like it. I've been there you can walk around and pick up crap every where. Shrapnel balls. bits of barb wire. I've seen old shells piled up along the side of the roads near Ypres Some with the corditte still stickin' out of it.. The tourists pickup the dried wild rabbit turds thinking they are Shrapnel.
Newfoundland Regimnt butt discs were marked quite prominently NFLD.
Beaumont-Hamel was finally taken by the Australians.
If you were right there, you were only about 4 miles from where the very first Tanks were used on September 15.
October 1 was the first attack at Regina Trench: a 1-hour operation which took almost 6 weeks and 2 Divisions of Canadians.
"When I was on the Somme, in 1916, we didn't think that ANY of us would EVER get out of there alive." Pte Charlie McKenzie, YMGC, CMMG
Beaumont-Hamel was finally taken by the Australians.
If you were right there, you were only about 4 miles from where the very first Tanks were used on September 15.
October 1 was the first attack at Regina Trench: a 1-hour operation which took almost 6 weeks and 2 Divisions of Canadians.
"When I was on the Somme, in 1916, we didn't think that ANY of us would EVER get out of there alive." Pte Charlie McKenzie, YMGC, CMMG
As I asked in the other thread you started...
Isn't it against the law in France to pick up battlfield artifacts?
Ie... Relic hunting.
I found this related to the topic:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10584
If that was the case and if any human remains are found nearby in the future, then such items can be critical in identifying the fallen.
Isn't it against the law in France to pick up battlfield artifacts?
Ie... Relic hunting.
I found this related to the topic:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10584
Wow... Just think, the rifle and its owner were likely destroyed.
If that was the case and if any human remains are found nearby in the future, then such items can be critical in identifying the fallen.
Technically the Newfoundland site and Vimy Ridge is land given by France to Canada so Canadian laws generally apply within the border of those sites. Outside of them, watch out, its French again.
That disc *may* be from a dropped Gewehr 98 as the early models had the unit disc. One way to be sure is to remove the bit of dirt from on top of the screw and see if it is the German or British type.
That disc *may* be from a dropped Gewehr 98 as the early models had the unit disc. One way to be sure is to remove the bit of dirt from on top of the screw and see if it is the German or British type.
I had the privilege of walking the Newfoundland a few years ago, I am curious where you found this ?
I noticed a lot of shell fragments and spent cartridge casings, both German and British, around the Hawthorn Ridge mine crater.
I noticed a lot of shell fragments and spent cartridge casings, both German and British, around the Hawthorn Ridge mine crater.
I dident personaly find it. i know afew relic collectors from around the world. the person actully lives in england. i'm not sure of this one but i know some of the items i have gotten from him in the past came from a site were they moved a monument to a better location. i would have no idea how to point it out.
i buy allot of WW2 relics and now i am trying to have the sellers include photos of the area were they dig.
i buy allot of WW2 relics and now i am trying to have the sellers include photos of the area were they dig.
Glock22Guy
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Good it was intended to be! The place is giant grave yard & hunting for trophies is Not permitted. 4 members of my family died there and all have no known grave, I have been there & do not Appreciate these looters disturbing the area for their own personal gain & fun.
When I was at the Newfoundland memorial, I remember bumping into half a dozen British collectors who were going around the sites like I was. One gentleman showed me his trunk and he had it filled with battlefield relics including an 1894 Hebel flare pistol. He says he comes to France every now and then, finds relics, and goes back to the U.K. afterwards.
I wasn't exactly enthusiastic about that as I believe these relics should be on public display, say at the Newfoundland memorial site.
I do admit, I found a few shell fragments in the Verdun area and brought them back to Canada. I use them as a teaching aid for history classes in High schools so students can physically hold a piece of history and of the Great War in their hands. Although I am tempted to go back and look for undiscovered relics, I am with Glock22Guy that these are war graves and many soldiers, from many different countries, still lay where they fell. As such, what I find, generally stays where it is now.
Just my two cents worth.
I wasn't exactly enthusiastic about that as I believe these relics should be on public display, say at the Newfoundland memorial site.
I do admit, I found a few shell fragments in the Verdun area and brought them back to Canada. I use them as a teaching aid for history classes in High schools so students can physically hold a piece of history and of the Great War in their hands. Although I am tempted to go back and look for undiscovered relics, I am with Glock22Guy that these are war graves and many soldiers, from many different countries, still lay where they fell. As such, what I find, generally stays where it is now.
Just my two cents worth.
My post from the other thread on the same subject.
The line between grave robbing and archeology is separated by a very thin line, thinner when less time has past. There are millions of artifacts returned from the fields of conflict, brought back by those that were there, without disturbing hallowed resting grounds. Remembering has little to do with disturbing, respecting, even less.
Grave robbing has caused great difficulty to the study of archaeology, art history, and history. Countless precious grave sites and tombs have been robbed before scholars were able to examine them. In any way – the archaeological context and the historical and anthropological information is destroyed.
Looting obliterates the memory of the ancient world and turns its highest artistic creations into decorations, adornments on a shelf, divorced from historical context and ultimately from all meaning.
The discipline of archeology involves surveyance, excavation and eventually analysis of data collected to learn more about the past. In broad scope, archaeology relies on cross-disciplinary research. It draws upon anthropology, history, art history, classics, ethnology, geography, geology, linguistics, semiology, physics, information sciences, chemistry, statistics, paleoecology, paleontology, paleozoology, paleoethnobotany, and paleobotany.
Archaeology developed out of antiquarianism in Europe during the 19th century, and has since become a discipline practiced across the world. Since its early development, various specific sub-disciplines of archaeology have developed, including maritime archaeology, feminist archaeology and archaeoastronomy, and numerous different scientific techniques have been developed to aid archaeological investigation. Nonetheless, today, archaeologists face many problems, ranging from dealing with pseudoarchaeology to the looting of artifacts and opposition to the excavation of human remains.
So, let's see the paper work and study of the excavations, and decide which applies.
The line between grave robbing and archeology is separated by a very thin line, thinner when less time has past. There are millions of artifacts returned from the fields of conflict, brought back by those that were there, without disturbing hallowed resting grounds. Remembering has little to do with disturbing, respecting, even less.
Grave robbing has caused great difficulty to the study of archaeology, art history, and history. Countless precious grave sites and tombs have been robbed before scholars were able to examine them. In any way – the archaeological context and the historical and anthropological information is destroyed.
Looting obliterates the memory of the ancient world and turns its highest artistic creations into decorations, adornments on a shelf, divorced from historical context and ultimately from all meaning.
The discipline of archeology involves surveyance, excavation and eventually analysis of data collected to learn more about the past. In broad scope, archaeology relies on cross-disciplinary research. It draws upon anthropology, history, art history, classics, ethnology, geography, geology, linguistics, semiology, physics, information sciences, chemistry, statistics, paleoecology, paleontology, paleozoology, paleoethnobotany, and paleobotany.
Archaeology developed out of antiquarianism in Europe during the 19th century, and has since become a discipline practiced across the world. Since its early development, various specific sub-disciplines of archaeology have developed, including maritime archaeology, feminist archaeology and archaeoastronomy, and numerous different scientific techniques have been developed to aid archaeological investigation. Nonetheless, today, archaeologists face many problems, ranging from dealing with pseudoarchaeology to the looting of artifacts and opposition to the excavation of human remains.
So, let's see the paper work and study of the excavations, and decide which applies.
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