New NEA 14.5" Range Report

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Today was warm and calm. Perfect for testing the new NEA 14.5” carbine.

I shot several different handloads and factory loadings off sandbags at 100 yards. The NEA was topped with a 20X target scope. My Norinco M4 has a Millet 1.5 – 4 scope I use for CQB.

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I had some misgivings about using the low powered Millet scope for accuracy work, but as it turned out, results were good. The Millet has a small round reticle which perfectly surrounded the big black aiming mark. It was like shooting target rifle with irons.

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The target set up used black patches as aiming marks. The 20X scope was easy to aim at one corner of the patch.
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For factory ammo I tried some IVI military ball and some 30 year old Norinco yellow box 55 FMJ. My handloads were some old 69g MatchKing and 80 g MatchKing left over from my Target Rifle days. I also shot some new handloads made with 55gr FMJ and a moderate load of H335. My standard CQB ammo for ARs other than my Norinco.

The NEA ran perfectly. Every round went bang and extracted and ejected. The trigger is typical new AR. A bit gritty. A tad lighter than any other AR I recall. When I ran a similar test a few months ago, the Daniel Defense trigger was so bad I could not shoot accurately. My Norinco M4 has a Rock River trigger that breaks cleanly at 3.5 pounds. Sweet!

Here are the results. The two rifles shot similar groups. Both shot the IVI well, with the NEA a bit better. Neither liked the Norinco Yellow Box. Both shot vertical groups with the 80 MatchKing, and both loved the Sierra 69g Match Kings.

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My Norinco has two important modifications to consider. It has a floated barrel. (A tube forend.) The NEA comes with a floated barrel, standard. Until this shoot I have always been disappointed in the Norinco 100 groups. But I was always testing 55 FMJ bullets. I knew match bullet would do better, but I am surprised at how much better they do. The two groups with the Sierra 69 Matchkings were under 1 ¼”. I think that is remarkable for factory AR15.

The NEA is an impressive rifle, considering it costs about $500 less than the rifles one would compare it to. Like the Daniel Defense, the only mod I would make is a Rock River trigger.

I am not qualified to compare construction quality and materials. The NEA has many little differences and details from other ARs, and I like them. Next week the new 10.5" arrives, and I look forward to testing it. I will get a better selection of factory ammo and make up more match loads with 69 Match Kings.

One thing I want to find out is how the rifle compare shooting offhand. The NEA has a heavier barrel and I suspect that it will be more stable from the standing position than the lighter Norinco. And I expect to find that the 14.5 does better than the 10.5, for the same reason.
 
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Great to hear that your NEA is working well right out of the box. Been thinking about picking one up more and more these days as NEA seems to have worked out a lot of the issues.
 
Witnessed a NEA M4gery at the range that would not strip a round from the tiny-testicaled Canadian magazine. The stock and buffer tube was loose. Not impressed. I'd buy Nonico over this carbine.

While I would agree it isn't exactly great that the stock was loose, this is a 2 minute fix with a fairly basic tool. THIS is your reason to avoid the NEA? I'd say pull up your big boy pants and stop being such a girl about it.

The failure to strip from the mag likely says more about the mag than the rifle. The vast majority of feeding problems in semis is due to the mag and not the rifle.
 
While I would agree it isn't exactly great that the stock was loose, this is a 2 minute fix with a fairly basic tool. THIS is your reason to avoid the NEA? I'd say pull up your big boy pants and stop being such a girl about it.

The failure to strip from the mag likely says more about the mag than the rifle. The vast majority of feeding problems in semis is due to the mag and not the rifle.

...and we all know Norks have zero issues, right? ;)
 
"On the 5.08 grouping it looks like some of the rounds were starting to tumble? the holes looks weird compared to the rest of the pics?"

Good eye. I took a good look at the actual target and conclude the Norc bullets had some yaw. I looked up the rifle specs. The Norc is a 1:9. This is too slow for a 80 g Sierra MK, unless there is lots of velocity. The short barrel will not generate enough velocity.

The NEA has a 1:7 barrel. This spun them up real good and makes for nice round holes. If I had to shoot deliberate shots (single loaded because of OAL) I guess the 80- would work, although the 75 HP would be better. I think the 75 would work in a 1:9, too. Have not tried it. I don't shoot service rifle any more, so am not interested in that aspect of the rifle.

When the second NEA arrives, I will put a big scope on the second one and do some load development with 55 FMJ. Since I only shoot CQB (35 yards) load development is over-kill, but I need all the help I can get....
 
While I would agree it isn't exactly great that the stock was loose, this is a 2 minute fix with a fairly basic tool. THIS is your reason to avoid the NEA? I'd say pull up your big boy pants and stop being such a girl about it.

The failure to strip from the mag likely says more about the mag than the rifle. The vast majority of feeding problems in semis is due to the mag and not the rifle.

Its hardly fair to expect the customer to complete the assembly process. After all he paid full price for a fully and properly assembled rifle. If you bought a new f150 would you think it was normal that the rear differential cover was flopping around loose?
 
Its hardly fair to expect the customer to complete the assembly process. After all he paid full price for a fully and properly assembled rifle. If you bought a new f150 would you think it was normal that the rear differential cover was flopping around loose?

If you bought an F150 and the tire pressure was a bit low would you go on the iternet and claim you'd never buy another ford again?
 
Definitely impressive, for sure.

I would like to know more about the Nork barrels, but I have no idea how you could get any accurate data on their production. I assume they're CHF simply because once you get the machine, it's cheap to do them that way, and Norinco probably moves enough barrels that that's the cheapest approach for them.

OTOH maybe they vary...no idea how many different factories make Norinco ARs. Which, IMO, is the main downside to them. You may get a very serviceable gun and you may not, and there is no real way to predict it.
 
When the second NEA arrives I will take both NEAs and the Norc back to the range and run a test with a variety of ammo through all 3. I will put a 20X scope on the Norc, too. Both NEA mght have Rock River triggers, too. That would help.
 
Kids. please go squabble some other place.

Has anyone noticed I shot a 1 1/4" group at 100 yards with a 4X scope with a Norc AR? I would have bet that was not possible.

Not me I have seen you shoot before. Besides the only people that don't believe in norcs never gave them a chance. Back to the group though do you think it would tighten up if you used the bigger glass? . When you get to little groups like that with a semi you are doing really well.
 
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