safe to shoot 308 in converted mauser 1895

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i have a mauser 1895 and it is converted to .308. it says .308 Win on the bottom of the muzzle. from what i have read mostp eople dont even think its safe to shoot 7.62 in them.
i bought it because i have lots of 7.62 ammo but now reading the barrel says .308 win not 7.62 do you think its safe to shoot commercial .308 in it?
 
The Model 95 is a weaker action and it is my understanding that the Spanish used 7.62 ammo in them which was milder than MILSPEC 7.62 NATO. I had one of these yrs ago and used reduced loads in it with IMR4895 powder and 150gr bullets.

Mine was actually one of the FR7 rifles which was based on the M95 action. As I recall it was marked 7.62mm.
 
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i'm not worried about the differences. i was thinking if it says 308 win. then wouldent it be okay to shoot 308 win in it? it doesent say 7.62.
 
The problem with these is they have a chamber sleeve soldered in. You can get erosion around the front of the sleeve from shooting ANY loads. Its up to you if you think its safe.

Here is a pic from the net.

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davemccarthy707 said:
The problem with these is they have a chamber sleeve soldered in. You can get erosion around the front of the sleeve from shooting ANY loads. Its up to you if you think its safe.

Here is a pic from the net.

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Not a universal thing and if it says .308, gotta be a non military conversion.:)


Grizz
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Not a universal thing and if it says .308, gotta be a non military conversion.:)


Grizz
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Pictures are worth a thousand words. He needs to put up a couple pics so we can figure it out. It could be a commercial re-barrel which would be fine. It could be a military rifle that is simply not marked 7.62 (most chilean 1895 rifles are struck lightly if at all). Does it say nato on it anywhere?
 
Definitely military. That .308 Win is just part of an import mark into the US. Those "5AK" look like Chilean marks. It will likely have the soldered chamber sleeve.
 
Thje problem here is instead of simply rechambering they reamed out the chamber and then inserted a section chambered to .308. The point where the insert contacts the barrel is subject to gas erosion causing a weak spot in the barrel. A long time ago someone posted the result of that erosion, The barrel failed at the point where the insert met the original barrel.
 
I have a 1912-61 Short rifle. Re barreled in 61 with supposibly P14 barrels that were turned to match the original barrel's profile. Stamped top of reciever 7.62 N. Shoots great but even in it I stay far below anything near full loads. A fun little "plinking" gun with light loads and 110gr RN. Not sure I would risk anything more than this in a re-chamber job if at all. Just have to remember Newtons law. If the bullit is going Forward at a few Thousand FPS, with a chamber fail, the chamber insert/bolt MAY be comeing back at several hundred FPS. A WORST case for sure,but your face is directly inline of any rearward moveing parts.
 
Skylark 4 said:
I have a 1912-61 Short rifle. Re barreled in 61 with supposibly P14 barrels that were turned to match the original barrel's profile. Stamped top of reciever 7.62 N. Shoots great but even in it I stay far below anything near full loads. A fun little "plinking" gun with light loads and 110gr RN. Not sure I would risk anything more than this in a re-chamber job if at all. Just have to remember Newtons law. If the bullit is going Forward at a few Thousand FPS, with a chamber fail, the chamber insert/bolt MAY be comeing back at several hundred FPS. A WORST case for sure,but your face is directly inline of any rearward moveing parts.
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Completely different rifle. The 1912 action is a k-98. Yours actually has an 03 springfield barrel. This can take max loaded .308 all day. Heck, that action could be rebarreled into a magnum no sweat.
 
i am going to try and fire it with the 7.62. i'm only worried about running out of 7.62 ammo. no local store stocks it.
the part of the gun i would be worried about is the chamber insert blocks the little ruptured case hole. if something bad did happen i think i would want the hole there. might take it to a gunsmith and have it drilled out.
 
There is really little difference between 7.62 and commercial .308. The problem comes from the solder in the chamber wearing away from shooting ANY ammo. I would shoot it...just not a whole lot.
 
....This is what I do know about the 1893-95 class of rifles that were converted to "7.62" by the spanish.......these were intended to shoot the 7.62 Cetme round.....lower pressure than a 7.62 Nato or 308 Win....I had a 1916 Spanish sporter fill my face with powder from a standard 308 round.....could have lost my vision.....paul mauser invented the 98 mauser for a reason.....to handle higher pressure rounds......why chance using a 100 plus year old rifle with ammo it was never designed to shoot....
 
well i got the gun for my boer collection. i just wanna see what it is like to shoot it. its in good condition and rilfeing is perfict. the ammo i am useing is from our old C1s so is probubly over 30 years old itself. and i always wear shooting glasses. its not like i am going to shoot the crap out of the gun doing rapid shots and stuff. i think it will be okay.
 
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