38 spl. question
- Thread starter jdman
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the exact same powder, if you look at hodgdons loading data website, on any of the calibre's i've looked at the load out is always the same, pressures are the same, etc etc. they look the same, they smell the same, they taste the same!
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You won't find it 'officially' listed anywhere
For real fire ball try 42gn of H110 or Lil'gun in a 50 S&W; just be sure to hang on.
24gn in 44 Mag is fun. Won't get much fire from a 357.
24gn in 44 Mag is fun. Won't get much fire from a 357.
...I always liked the flames that shot out of the 44 mag, 50AE with H110, so i hope it has some fire with the 357.
thanks for the help guys.
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ok another thing i am unsure of is,
what are the hard and fast rules of lead bullets? I have never loaded any before.(other than a few to try out in my 45acp). Always used jacketed, or plated bullets.
SOme i have already have lube on them, so these are good to load i assume?
Others i have dont have lube yet, and some dont have the groves where the lube would go, (those ones i think are called speer HBWC).
Is lube mandatory for lead bullets, i guess is what i want to know? Or are they just soft like a frigid woman, who doesnt want it dry?
Go To
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Lots of info there
the speer HBWC are hollow base wad cutters and only use data for HBWC or bad things Can Happen
Start at published Min loads and work up
Do not use Jacketed data for cast loads
Only make a few round to Start ( test the load first ) ---- so Don't make 200 rounds and find out they dont work ---its true if you read it on the web and I read of some one making 500 rounds and they did not work the way he wanted
07blackwater
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Most plated bullet manufacturers will recommend lead bullet data. The best reference is the Lyman cast bullet manual IMHO and it's what I use.
I have Lyman's 4th and it's an invaluable resource for both.
I've found the hard cast lead data is pretty close for plated although plated bullets seem to run a tad slower.
I have Lyman's 4th and it's an invaluable resource for both.
I've found the hard cast lead data is pretty close for plated although plated bullets seem to run a tad slower.
great list of data there on that site, saved for reference.
The speer bullets are not listed on that list though. I do have it in my lyman 49th though. There is only 60 of those anyways. Most of it is the 158gr hard cast.
Ok, i lied. just weighed the bullets. they are mostly around 155gr area. I would assume the lube adds a bit of weight, so i would say the average is 155gr.
In my load manual it shows this weight, but it is not really the same shape as the one i have. It has a lube grove, then the cannelure, then the tip goes to a semi wad cutter. The book does not look like that. It also says that this bullet needs a gas check? Does this refer to the +p loads used, or for the 155 gr bullet period.
I have a small amount of unique, as well as an even smaller supply of bullseye to load with. Enough to load some up anyways, and see what is better.
Also back to the HBWC warning before, i also checked the book again for that, and it is not actually a load specific to the HBWC, the picture looks similar though, and same weight. WHere will i find specific info about that bullet? PM if you wish.
Thanks!
In my load manual it shows this weight, but it is not really the same shape as the one i have. It has a lube grove, then the cannelure, then the tip goes to a semi wad cutter. The book does not look like that. It also says that this bullet needs a gas check? Does this refer to the +p loads used, or for the 155 gr bullet period.
I have a small amount of unique, as well as an even smaller supply of bullseye to load with. Enough to load some up anyways, and see what is better.
Also back to the HBWC warning before, i also checked the book again for that, and it is not actually a load specific to the HBWC, the picture looks similar though, and same weight. WHere will i find specific info about that bullet? PM if you wish.
Thanks!
well that is just it. none of the other weights call for them, it actually looks like the bullet pictured for the 158gr anyways.
I load for 38spl and 357 magnum using small rifle primers... according to some info i found from CCI the small rifle primers are equivalent to small pistol magnum primers... i shoot mine out of an H&R single shot rifle with wicked accuracy and velocity. 158 and 180 gr hornady XTP's, and some 158gr lead swc-hollowpoints. W296 is my go to powder for velocity, and 4227 is my back up and what is use with the lead bullets.
