Should the law change so hunters can keep a gallbladder from a bear?

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It is really a waste of resource to throw it off. Why not let hunters keep it?

It is very valuable to Asian market. How about having hunters send a gallbladder to a inspection center, then the government sell this gallbladder to those who want to buy. The money from this transaction then go to conservation. It is much better than throwing it in the field.
 
Once you have a legal market its hard to know what's legal and what's illegal so increased poaching is seen as likely. If everything is illegal.... then you get the picture.
The exact same argument is going on with ivory right now at a MUCH larger scale and no simple answer has arose.
FWIW, I'm all for innovative ways to raise cash for conservation- just not sure this is as workable as you imagine.
 
It cannot be changed ... the asian market is too strong , Eastern guys will wipe them out. If you want bears out there you cannot change that law
 
You can keep them here in NS.

"Bear Gallbladder Seal
Black bear gall bladders must be sealed with a permanently
attached locking seal prior to sale or export. This seal can
be obtained at any Department of Natural Resources office.
The gall bladder must be presented in order to be sealed.
Note: Hunters are encouraged to phone their local DNR
office prior to submitting a bear gall bladder to ensure that
appropriate staff will be available"
 
Eventually the law will be changed.
It is only a matter of time before the Asian/New Canadian population takes over the government through the electoral process.
Serious, the demographics are changing massively in the Lowermainland/Great Vancouver Regional Dist.
They are already predicting by 2030 or sooner the population will be 1-4 with be of Caucasian decent.
This may sound like a racist rant, but it is not intended to be.
The facts are when they decide to run for office the numbers will dictate as will the wants of the electorate as well.
Personally, I think the use of gall bladders and bear paws for medicinal purposes in B/S and that when they Government allowed the retention of the Gal bladder a few years ago(in BC) many bears where killed simply for the Gall Bladder, the remains left to rot.
Take it for what it is(my comments)
Rob
 
When something has good value vs the price of a bullet it can become a target for the unscrupulous. This is unfortunately what happened in the Bear gall bladder situation. It was very rampant in BC and was almost impossible to police. The consensus at that time was to ban all possession, ergo no market period. It was an extreme measure and penalized the honest but it was an effective one.
 
Nothing good can come of it. What real documented use is there for a bear's gall bladder? Just like rhino horn, it's "medicinal" use is BS and it should not be supported or condoned under any circumstance.
 
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You can't call some of this medicine BS. If I told you I ate dried out pig thyroid gland and felt better would you believe me? You better because it is how they make some thyroid thyroid medication, in pill form of course. What about horse urine being made into birth control pills back in the day? IT's a fact eating some animal parts and fluids can result in medical effects.
 
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You can't call some of this medicine BS. If I told you I ate dried out pig thyroid gland and felt better would you believe me? You better because it is how they make some thyroid thyroid medication, in pill form of course. What about horse urine being made into birth control pills back in the day? IT's a fact eating some animal parts and fluids can result in medical effects.
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They're still making some birth control and estrogen based drugs from horse pee. Turns out a lot of the synthetic miracle replacements weren't as effective. They also grind animal bones to use as a base for certain make up and cosmetic products. People use dead animal bits all the time and don't even realize it. I've got nothing against a hunter using any part of a legally taken animal, unfourtunately a small number of jackasses have ruined this for those who might legally partake. As per usual. A special permit to take a gall for personal use in conjunction with a hunting license would be nice for these people. Unlikely to happen though.
 
Manitoba already had a Bear gallbladder poaching problem which is precisely why you can no longer be in posesion of one, ever
 
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They're still making some birth control and estrogen based drugs from horse pee. Turns out a lot of the synthetic miracle replacements weren't as effective. They also grind animal bones to use as a base for certain make up and cosmetic products. People use dead animal bits all the time and don't even realize it. I've got nothing against a hunter using any part of a legally taken animal, unfourtunately a small number of jackasses have ruined this for those who might legally partake. As per usual. A special permit to take a gall for personal use in conjunction with a hunting license would be nice for these people. Unlikely to happen though.
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Pregnant mares urine: Murine for the eyes, something most of us have used. Note the spelling, not that much left to the imagination. If there was a way to regulate the use of gall bladders, there is no problem using them in medicine effective or not. Given the level of poaching that went on before the ban it does not look promising. The people doing the exporting to Asia certainly did not care where the bladders came from. At this point I would rather err on the side of caution and continue the ban. As usual the honest person takes the weight for the dishonest types.
 
elker said:
It is really a waste of resource to throw it off. Why not let hunters keep it?

It is very valuable to Asian market. How about having hunters send a gallbladder to a inspection center, then the government sell this gallbladder to those who want to buy. The money from this transaction then go to conservation. It is much better than throwing it in the field.
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How about we are regulated to send the bear gallbladders to government agency,this agency sell them to Asia. the money then is used on conservation. so no individual can sell.

how can that hurt?
 
In most of Canada, hunters are allowed to shoot one bear, in certain areas two. Since they have that license or royalty paid, they could get a special permit to sell the gall bladder, right?
Now how about those individuals who don't require a license and don't have a quota? How do you regulate how many galls they can sell?
The sale needs to remain banned.
 
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