Coyote Ugly
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That's a Calgary Gun Show Favorite! I wonder how and where that story started?
Enfield vs Mauser old school throwdown
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That's a Calgary Gun Show Favorite! I wonder how and where that story started?
I think it started from the same guy whose buddy was supposedly shot by the Germans because they heard his M1 go "ping" over the din of battle and chose that moment to charge at him. Where's that rolling eye emoticon again?
Heard the Sten-through-the-door-cleaned-the-room-out story in Vancouver, almost 50 years ago.
Think it was already old then!
Thing is, it's just SO plausible. You can #### a Sten with a good smack to a sack of spuds or something, IF the angle is perfect; that Bolt weighs a pound and a half. And it only has to go back far enough to feed a round and fire it; it doesn't have to go all the way back to the sear.
If the trigger were tied back, it just might work, but it will be a cold day in Hell before I volunteer to try it out!
On the other hand, you just might be giving Jerry a new machine-gun to shoot at you with!
"Fritz, vas ist los?"
"Meine neues Maschinenpistole; Tommy ist fur Mir durch das Fenster gesenden!"
"Munitionlose?"
"Nein, ist vollgeladen. Heute meine Geburstag ist!"
Think it was already old then!
Thing is, it's just SO plausible. You can #### a Sten with a good smack to a sack of spuds or something, IF the angle is perfect; that Bolt weighs a pound and a half. And it only has to go back far enough to feed a round and fire it; it doesn't have to go all the way back to the sear.
If the trigger were tied back, it just might work, but it will be a cold day in Hell before I volunteer to try it out!
On the other hand, you just might be giving Jerry a new machine-gun to shoot at you with!
"Fritz, vas ist los?"
"Meine neues Maschinenpistole; Tommy ist fur Mir durch das Fenster gesenden!"
"Munitionlose?"
"Nein, ist vollgeladen. Heute meine Geburstag ist!"
As to the bending-barrels tale, it might be interesting to make a barrel 'way off concentric and try it out.
Also, I have known of a "sprung" barrel: one which has been BENT and then straightened, which would put the first 2 where you wanted them and then start spreading bullets all over the North half of Creation. Considering that deep-hole drilling, especially in a brand-new plant with untrained workers, is more than a bit touchy, and that it was common practice to STRAIGHTEN barrels with V-blocks and a lead hammer..... and that this ALSO was a touchy operation..... and that the British plants (Maltby, Shirley, Fazakerley) were set up and started production in the darkest of the Dark Days..... I would think that it could be possible for ALL of the faults to gang up in ONE rifle, especially in the very early days.
Just my 10 cents' worth (pennies no longer being available in this Free Country of ours).
Also, I have known of a "sprung" barrel: one which has been BENT and then straightened, which would put the first 2 where you wanted them and then start spreading bullets all over the North half of Creation. Considering that deep-hole drilling, especially in a brand-new plant with untrained workers, is more than a bit touchy, and that it was common practice to STRAIGHTEN barrels with V-blocks and a lead hammer..... and that this ALSO was a touchy operation..... and that the British plants (Maltby, Shirley, Fazakerley) were set up and started production in the darkest of the Dark Days..... I would think that it could be possible for ALL of the faults to gang up in ONE rifle, especially in the very early days.
Just my 10 cents' worth (pennies no longer being available in this Free Country of ours).
Hans. Immer sind Hans und Fritz zusammen.
Hey, that reminds me of another Mauser advantage. Cocking that bolt sounds just like a D-Day cricket... great way to fool paratroops.
Hahaha yes that's a true classic, especially when it fires two shots. Good ol Hollywood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDLcKqV_WjA
Wouldn't it be easier to recock it by just raising and lowering the bolt handle?
burnt_servo
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so imagine this , you pull the trigger and nothing happens , is it a hang fire or a miss fire .
the last thing you want to be doing is unlocking the bolt , if it can be helped at all , to recock the firing pin .
in other words what if it was a long hangfire that just happened to go off in the split second while you where working the bolt to recock it .
i've fired off really old ammo , had it miss fire , cycled to the next round , only to have the miss fired round go off on the ground next to me .
mcpherson284
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Hey, I had that JUST about happen, I had 3 rounds of old 8mm that didn't go boom. So, on the forth round, when there was no boom, without thinking I went to jerk the bolt open. My hand JUST touched the knob and BOOM!
1903 Springfield or Lee Enfield is King/Queen! The ability to recock without opening the bolt is by far the best.
In a combat situation you most likely wouldn't even know you had a misfire. I read once about a rapid fire session at a US Army range, using the Krag, a shooter was injured when a misfire was ejected and went off near the shooter's face. One thing that always bugged me about the L-E was no bolt hold open, like the P-14 has. I have heard and read of soldiers in the heat of battle, who simply kept working the bolt and snapping empty rifles. Much like the soldiers at Gettysburg who were found dead with 20 unfired charges in their muskets.
