So recently I was craving another handgun. Was interested in trying the 1911 platform. Local shop got some Norc 1911's in and that peaked my interest. I slept on it a few days and decided I did not want to take on a new caliber so I decided to stick with 9mm, as they had the NP-29 in stock. $370 and a day later I'm at the range. Yes, my local shop is very well priced and fast to transfer.
It was awkward at first, but 3 trips later I'm shooting very well with it.
When I got it the sights were WAY off, this is to be expecting. I got it shooting straight, but the thing seems to shoot 6" or more high depending on the ammo. I have to use a very exaggerated 6'oC hold to print the bullet where I want. That throws me off cause I generally don't like 6'oC sight pictures.
Looking closely at the rear sights, I notice they sit way higher then the front sights. My M&P 9 has lower profile rear sight with the same radius, and it shoots pretty much on elevation wise. The MP9 sights front and rear sights are pretty much the same height.
I'm thinking that a 45ACP with a lower Vel' will have a greater drop at a given distance, and that Norc just went ahead and willy nilly put the same sights on the 9mm that they do on the 45, not compensating for the different ballistics. However, I did do a search, and could not find posts of any other NP-29 owners reporting this same problem. Perhaps I missed something or used the wrong search terms.
I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem? Or what options there are to solve it. I'd love some adjustable sights, but as we all know, Norc uses a non standard dove in the rear.
More Info:
- I'm not the most experiences pistol shooter, but I do have a couple thousand rounds down range and know what I'm capable of.
I'm pretty sure it's not me, unless something about the physics of a 1911 are throwing me a curve ball.
- I'm used to shooting an M&P 9 with the Large Grip and a D'Eagle 44. Those are my other pistols. I will be looking into grip options for my NP.
- I'm typically shooting 25yards, I think, the Range Maint' Exec' says it's actually 35y, I've never measured it myself.
- I've also been shooting at the 50y gongs, and can connect 3 out of 5 times typically.
- I have tried closer and at about 8 "arshins" it's no where near as bad but does still print high.
- I've been shooting reloads. Some 115g CMJs @ 6.0g Power Pistol. But mostly 135g DRG Cast @ ~3.7g Bullzeye.
My cast loads shoot well for me out of both the NP and the MP. Knowing what I know about my reloads, I don't expect any different results out of factory rounds, worse if anything.
- The gun has yet to malfunction at all, so far showing a better track record then my MP which failed only Once on the very first shot I ever took with it.
- Barrel bushing seems to be ill fitted, and has some play to it, I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
Measured 0.015" play next to the barrel, and 0.0175" where it mates to the spring retainer.
It has a pronounced wiggle and the bunch is forced into a slight upward cant.
- Well knowing the risks, I've already done my own trigger job with some improvised stoning techniques using some machinist tricks I've picked up in the past. The NP was a heavy rough over 8lbs when I got it. It's now a much smoother just under 6lbs but with more of a rolling break (which is what I was going for).
Ironically, last time at the range, there was another member with an expensive Kimber, and my trigger felt nicer, Funny that.
I'm actually known for my improvisational smith/armorer expertise locally.
It was awkward at first, but 3 trips later I'm shooting very well with it.
When I got it the sights were WAY off, this is to be expecting. I got it shooting straight, but the thing seems to shoot 6" or more high depending on the ammo. I have to use a very exaggerated 6'oC hold to print the bullet where I want. That throws me off cause I generally don't like 6'oC sight pictures.
Looking closely at the rear sights, I notice they sit way higher then the front sights. My M&P 9 has lower profile rear sight with the same radius, and it shoots pretty much on elevation wise. The MP9 sights front and rear sights are pretty much the same height.
I'm thinking that a 45ACP with a lower Vel' will have a greater drop at a given distance, and that Norc just went ahead and willy nilly put the same sights on the 9mm that they do on the 45, not compensating for the different ballistics. However, I did do a search, and could not find posts of any other NP-29 owners reporting this same problem. Perhaps I missed something or used the wrong search terms.
I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem? Or what options there are to solve it. I'd love some adjustable sights, but as we all know, Norc uses a non standard dove in the rear.
More Info:
- I'm not the most experiences pistol shooter, but I do have a couple thousand rounds down range and know what I'm capable of.
I'm pretty sure it's not me, unless something about the physics of a 1911 are throwing me a curve ball.
- I'm used to shooting an M&P 9 with the Large Grip and a D'Eagle 44. Those are my other pistols. I will be looking into grip options for my NP.
- I'm typically shooting 25yards, I think, the Range Maint' Exec' says it's actually 35y, I've never measured it myself.
- I've also been shooting at the 50y gongs, and can connect 3 out of 5 times typically.
- I have tried closer and at about 8 "arshins" it's no where near as bad but does still print high.
- I've been shooting reloads. Some 115g CMJs @ 6.0g Power Pistol. But mostly 135g DRG Cast @ ~3.7g Bullzeye.
My cast loads shoot well for me out of both the NP and the MP. Knowing what I know about my reloads, I don't expect any different results out of factory rounds, worse if anything.
- The gun has yet to malfunction at all, so far showing a better track record then my MP which failed only Once on the very first shot I ever took with it.
- Barrel bushing seems to be ill fitted, and has some play to it, I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
Measured 0.015" play next to the barrel, and 0.0175" where it mates to the spring retainer.
It has a pronounced wiggle and the bunch is forced into a slight upward cant.
- Well knowing the risks, I've already done my own trigger job with some improvised stoning techniques using some machinist tricks I've picked up in the past. The NP was a heavy rough over 8lbs when I got it. It's now a much smoother just under 6lbs but with more of a rolling break (which is what I was going for).
Ironically, last time at the range, there was another member with an expensive Kimber, and my trigger felt nicer, Funny that.
I'm actually known for my improvisational smith/armorer expertise locally.
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