Most powerful under 500 fps .22 semi auto pellet pistol for Grouse contol in Canada?

I know there are a few .22 single shot pellet pistols, I was hoping for a semi auto....

About the only Semi Auto airgun that might fill the bill is the Crosman 600. They can be finicky to get set up for the pellets you want to shoot, and some of the more critical parts are unavailable except from guys parting out others.
They sell for a bit of coin, too. Expect to spend $300 or so on a decent one plus the parts and seals it likely needs. You will do well if you get one running for less.

Fun units when operating well, but...
I sold mine a few years back.

Crosman single shots are about what the market has in it these days, without breaking the bank. In used, there are a few revolvers that can be tuned up, in particular, the Crosman 38T in .22. The early models with the all brass valve, and the direct impingement hammer (no transfer bar) were able to be tuned and adjusted to put out useable power as well as accuracy.

Lots of 'semi-auto' looking .177s that are actually revolvers internally, lots of single shot guns, very few true semi auto airguns around. You can spend up to a couple $K on a match grade semi auto, still in .177 cal, but it still is sketchy as a grouse gun.

Essentially, you are looking for something that is not there these days.

Look hard at the aftermarket conversions to .25 cal or even larger. Move a bigger projectile at under 500 fps, and you get more energy at the target. Think in terms of whether you would wish to be hit by a baseball or a ping pong ball, at equal speeds. It's about the energy you can get to the target.


Best of luck.

Cheers
Trev
 
When shooting crows and grouse with an under 500fps airgun only headshots work.I've killed stone dead plenty of both with 600fps and above gun in .177 + .22 I like JSB Predators for maximun expansion.A Crossman 2240 /MKI can easily be modded to either just under 500fps with a simple barrel change or make a carbine with 14" or longer stock.Harold
 
Well guy's you can get a 2240 which is really easy to mod up to 700 750 fps and then install a BNM multi shot breach similar to the marauder which make like a bolt action . I have one that is real accurate out 50 yds . and yes the heavier hunting pellets do hit with a wallop . I used to use a 177 and the squirrels ran away even after an obvious hit . Not so with a 22 cal . And the 2240 is unbelievably accurate and versatile as far as aftermarket parts are concerned there's no end to the mods . Just google 2240 mods . Something else one of the members on the air gun forum had mentioned that stuck was when was the last time you heard of cop coming into your yard to ask to chrony your pellet gun !!
 
Really. I thought it was the other way around. I know here in BC the lower mainland is a primary migratory breeding ground for crows. And my hunting synopsis shows a season opening and bag limit for Ravens.

But I could be wrong. Maybe I have it all confused but I know for sure there's a season in areas for Ravens. Just checked the synopsis.

Crows are schedule C birds. Blast them all you want, no season.
 
I have a Crosman Phantom .22 that I use for grey/black squirrels at 10 yards or so, the rifle is rated at 495fps but I honestly think it is a bit more then that as I have always killed the critters with one shot an never had one run away wounded. That being said I do not think I would use one for grouse or crow, something that hits harder would be needed imo. I use a .22lr for grouse and rabbit/hare in the fall an think that is just about perfect, even over my 20 gauge Remington.
 
The Winchester Model 11 is pretty cool. It's a 1911 replica, metal, blowback slide and it still shoots 410 FPS. It's very realistic. Shoots .177 steel pellets.

I'll tell you right now, it can kill small animals. I haven't killed anything, but just shooting it, I can tell.
 
When shooting crows and grouse with an under 500fps airgun only headshots work.

i'm sorry, but the dozens of crows i've shot over the years (mainly as a teen) with sub 500 fps airguns would definitely disagree with that statement. i've only made a few headshots, yet the majority fell straight to the ground and were dead by the time i got to them.
 
PBA ammo in a gun not designed to take PBA, you will pretty much destroy the air chamber, as all that pressure hitting such a light object. Kiss your pellet gun goodbye after a few rounds.

Personally if I was going to hunt birds with an air gun. I would use a pellet rifle and not a pellet pistol, as most pellet pistols without a PAL are going to be less then 495FPS, the average is about 400 to 450 and the PBA/Lead pellets will bounce off a crow. My .177 cal Gamo Delta (rifle) and my cheap China Made rifle are both 495 with lead, and I've had them bounce off Eastern Gray Squirrels. Now my Crossman C11 & C21 CO2 BB pistols 19 round clips, I've killed squirrels & rabbits with them. the C11 is 480, and the C21 is 495. The difference is, "copper" bb's are copper coated steel BB's
 
the only 22 semi-auto that i know of is a daisy 622x(but it's been discontinued for sometime); someone in the states makes a 20 cal for the crosman 357 look alike.
 
PBA ammo in a gun not designed to take PBA, you will pretty much destroy the air chamber, as all that pressure hitting such a light object. Kiss your pellet gun goodbye after a few rounds.

Personally if I was going to hunt birds with an air gun. I would use a pellet rifle and not a pellet pistol, as most pellet pistols without a PAL are going to be less then 495FPS, the average is about 400 to 450 and the PBA/Lead pellets will bounce off a crow. My .177 cal Gamo Delta (rifle) and my cheap China Made rifle are both 495 with lead, and I've had them bounce off Eastern Gray Squirrels. Now my Crossman C11 & C21 CO2 BB pistols 19 round clips, I've killed squirrels & rabbits with them. the C11 is 480, and the C21 is 495. The difference is, "copper" bb's are copper coated steel BB's

Shot many grouse with a crossman 2240, never had to shoot one twice and al of them died very quickly.

Also no mods done to the 2240 i was target shooting with the targets set up on a poplar tree and i noticed the pellets penetrating 2.5-3" into the tree. If a pellet goes into a tree that far it will have no problem killing a grouse, crow or rabbit with a decently placed shot.

The idea the pellet will bounce off a crow is ridiculous! Crows have not been issued body armour that i have heard of yet
 
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