MR1 or SL8???

Food for thoughts for anybody thinking to get a NR semi... JP.
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MR-1 is a great rifle and quite accurate. The only issues I had (and they were pretty minor ones) was vertical stringing when the barrel got hot (say after a few 10 shot groups) and the field striping/takedown of the rifle is a bit of a pain (but honestly it really doen't need to be cleaned much with that gas system).
 
It is a very low maintenance rifle, the gaz system if you except a light beige tarnish look like brand new after many thousands rounds, will take a picture of it when i strip it... JP.
 
I don't own either one, but I have had a chance to shoot both. YMMV, but I found the SL8 to be one of the most uncomfortable guns I have ever held or fired. The MR1 was very nice and fit me perfectly (collapsing stock version). Accuracy seemed good with both but if I were to buy one it would be the Benelli. 10-roung mags without spending extra money on an adapter is a bonus.
 
Sorry but I think you are competely off base with your opinion.

The SL8-4 I owned was easilly MOA with match grade ammo. The XCR's I've shot are usually around 1.5-2 MOA with decent ammo and the Mini-14 I owned which was an older ranch rifle with 1:7 twist couldn't even keep groups within 6 inches at 100 yards with any ammo I tried. Mine was 100% reliable but I sure wouldn't count on it to shoot a coyote beyond 100 yards. And considering the price of a mini and then the cost of sending it away to make it shoot you may as well just spend the money on something decent from the start. Plus mags are Ruger or Ruger and are not overly hard to find but also not easy if you don't have a well stocked retailer close by.

I have heard the Tavor isn't very accurate but I have not shot one and don't want to say anything bad unless I've experienced it myself.

For blasting coyotes for under $2000 with a .223 I would look at a used XCR or a used AR180-B if you can find one. Both use easy to find AR mags and both can shoot decently when you find the right ammo for the gun.

If you don't mind going with a bolt action both Savage and Remington (among others) make wonderful .223 bolts for around $1000 that will outperform a semi in both accuracy and price.

Its not my opinion, its how I've seen these guns perform. From what I've experienced the MR1 is a 3" gun. I've built consistant shooting 1/4" MOA AR's (more then one). I have NOT been able to find a NR semi that can match that. I'm waiting for someone (NEA) to step up and build one.

My friend can make a mini-14 shoot consistant MOA groups. I've seen it, and shot them. For the price of a XCR you could get a mini accurized and still have money left over for a case of ammo.
 
I know that I'm reviving an old thread here but, here goes. Love what you are saying about this rifle, Caramel. I am seriously looking into buying one over a Mini 14 ( 20 in. Barrel and AR mags... Better than a mini). I'd love to see how you've got it set up if you live in the Montreal area. I really want to believe in your numbers but the second picture makes me wonder. That target that you show on the blue trunk.... It has 200 meters and "100 verges" written on it. 100 verges is french for 100 yards.... Which is shorter than 100 meters... And much shorter than 200 meters.
 
If you value accuracy neither of these fit the bill!!

MR1 is a 3" gun at best and so is the SL8, Tavor and XCR are even worse!!! A mini-14, sent to a proper gunsmith for accurizing will make you much happier.

Cheers,

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Personally, I find the MR1 to be the fugliest rifle one could possibly buy, but it has been proven accurate on more than one occasion (Reliability under serious use is another matter all together). The Mini-14 on the other hand, while robust and reliable, has a 30 year old Minute of Broad side of barn reputation.

Also, I have always been skeptical of Caramels MR1 groups and I am not afraid to say it publicly, again though, this is my opinion, and it's besides the point, as the MR1 has been proven accurate many times.

Really, it's the best choice in this regard.
 
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If you value accuracy neither of these fit the bill!!

MR1 is a 3" gun at best and so is the SL8, Tavor and XCR are even worse!!! A mini-14, sent to a proper gunsmith for accurizing will make you much happier.

Cheers,
The MR-1 with a good rolled one is a MOA rifle, look a those target with 77 gr Scenar, that's no 3 inch @ best... JP.
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Well, I'm still fooling around trying to get the right set-up for my scope but I can say that the MR-1 is a great gun to shoot. It's well built, simple to use, and has no trouble with any ammo I have tried up to now. With the iron sights it's no problem blasting clay pigeons (set up in front of the back-stop of course) at 50 yards. You try it and you see that it's a quality gun. I'm keeping mine.
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The MR-1 with a good rolled one is a MOA rifle, look a those target with 77 gr Scenar, that's no 3 inch @ best... JP.
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Hey there Caramel, what type of ,308 rifle (XCR~M?) were you using on the lower three targets at 200meters (excellent grouping btw) and if I see you shooting at another Ferrari Logo again there will be trouble LOL
 
Hey there Caramel, what type of ,308 rifle (XCR~M?) were you using on the lower three targets at 200meters (excellent grouping btw) and if I see you shooting at another Ferrari Logo again there will be trouble LOL

Those 178 gr groups were all shoot with my Nemesis... JP.
 
Those 178 gr groups were all shoot with my Nemesis... JP.

Thanks, I thought those groups were to tight for a XCR~M, but I did not want to start any trouble just in case you are a magician of a shooter and actually pulled those groups off some how,,,

Thanks for all your input, it is helpful to really get a good understanding of the rifles covered,,,
 
But be sure of something the XCR-M is a MOA rifle, i will put some target pretty soon with some roll ones with 155 gr Scenars, BL-C2 or R-15, BR-2, medium velocity load since the Lapua is so long i had to limit the charge to 42 gr of R-15, they should zip at 2600fps+ over the Oehler, they do fine on setting #3... JP.
 
I am no expert on any of the above mentioned rifles but I do read many posts on CGN and you learn after awhile who has a certain level of credibility when you go with their suggestions in the field. I hold both Caramels and Steve Janes opinions in high regard when it comes to threads like this. By the way PHD, calling the MR1 a 3" gun at best is not really an accurate comment but appears more like an opinion based on the dislike you may have for this rifle in the first place.

The MR1 will be my next purchase as my first non-restricted black followed by the Swiss Arms when the SGBA (secret guy bank account) is filled up again.
 
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