SBR vs SR-22 Rifle - Shaving weight

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Is there any other parts of the Ruger SR-22 rifle that we can mod/change to shave some weight BESIDE the metal handguard ?

- Want to build an SBR 26" + 1/2 to be safe
- Nordic chassis
- Fixed Skeleton stock instead of SR-22 style buttstock.. not sure if i save weigth a lot or not there
- short lightweight handguard ( i really hate the look of the one i see the most.. in carbon )
- need a short barrel... maybe a 8" Dlask or (is it legal) having a smith cutting the .7XX SR-22 [half-bull] barrel.. rebranding it to a 8".. does it count as "manufactured short" == canadian legal ? or it will always be a SR-22 barrel so can't be cutted down.

For the SBR.. regarding finding every parts, chassis, nuts n bolts, buffer, spring, grip, etc.. i have a brand new 10/22 that i may sell and get an SR-22 instead and change the buttstock+handguard+"your recommandation". Or i ditch every idea and get a Troy T22 chassis and cut down the extra length on the handguard (should be lightweight overall)

Any other idea that i forgot for shaving weigth of an SR-22 ?

Here is some exemple of what it could be..

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really loving this one below
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This should be a god damned sticky but you cannot cut any barrel shorter than 457 mm (17.99") no matter what length it was manufactured at. This means if its already shorter than 457 mm you can not shorten it. In order for the short barrels to be legal it must be manufactured from a brand new barrel blank, not cut down from a barrel previously manufactured. Also, M4 buttstocks are about as light as it gets. Most others are heavier. About the shortest barrel you can get away with is 12.5" unless you block the buttstock so it doesn't collapse below 660 mm or use a fixed buttstock. With a fixed stock you will have to measure but you can get pretty short. Also, if you want lightweight look into the promag archangel 5.56 stock. Far cheaper and much lighter than the $250+ aluminum Nordic kit or $550 SR-22. Now for the barrel, no one makes a light contour shorter than 12.5" but I'm sure Dlask will turn one down for you. This is very important. I had a 9" NEA bull barrel that was still fairly hefty up front.
 
supernova said:
This should be a god damned sticky but you cannot cut any barrel shorter than 457 mm (17.99") no matter what length it was manufactured at. This means if its already shorter than 457 mm you can not shorten it. In order for the short barrels to be legal it must be manufactured from a brand new barrel blank, not cut down from a barrel previously manufactured. Also, M4 buttstocks are about as light as it gets. Most others are heavier. About the shortest barrel you can get away with is 12.5" unless you block the buttstock so it doesn't collapse below 660 mm or use a fixed buttstock. With a fixed stock you will have to measure but you can get pretty short. Also, if you want lightweight look into the promag archangel 5.56 stock. Far cheaper and much lighter than the $250+ aluminum Nordic kit or $550 SR-22. Now for the barrel, no one makes a light contour shorter than 12.5" but I'm sure Dlask will turn one down for you. This is very important. I had a 9" NEA bull barrel that was still fairly hefty up front.
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First i know "I" can't cut the barrel.. and agree it should be a god damn sticky.. after 340 msg on CGN.. its pretty obvious by now. But if a licensed gunsmith change it.. i taught that maybe i could be manufactured as a new shorter barrel since it was made by someone who can manufacture shorter barrel anyway.. the whole point was to not use a .920 barrel (weight) and make something usefull out of the SR-22 barrel (lighter and still 12,5" long). i guess not so its 1 point less in favor of getting a complete SR22 over building one around my 10/22.

Second, im glad to hear the collapsable M4 stock is as light as it can be.. i like that buttstock. Then again back to my point.. for having the short barrel.. i would not like to PIN fixed a collapsable so i taught it would be better with the ace stock or "skeleton" stock.
 
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Also, if you want lightweight look into the promag archangel 5.56 stock. Far cheaper and much lighter than the $250+ aluminum Nordic kit or $550 SR-22.
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oh almost forgot.. i bought one in the past and it felt so cheap i put it back in its original packaging and resold it here.

The only part i would use is the handguard of the archangel to replace to one on the SR-22 or Nordic setup.

I really need to find the weight of the Troy T22 and hacksaw it smaller to fit a 12,5" barrel
 
I got ya now, I figured it was another newb "can I do this even though it says I can't" kind of questions. But no, not even a gunsmith or barrel manufacturer can cut it down to less than 457 mm. You don't have to pin the stock in one position. When I built my shorty I epoxied a piece of 3/8" key stock into the lower channel of the buttstock so that it would hit the buffer tube and prevent the stock from collapsing below the third position. This kept OAL at 26 1/4" with the 9" barrel. This was with an NEA 22 chassis so you would have to do your own measuring with the Nordic kit. It worked out good for me as the shorter positions were too short for me anyways. I think your money might be best spent buying the SR, selling the parts you don't want and replacing them with what you do want. It costs a lot to piece one together, even with cheap parts.
 
That SR22 is a real pig, isn't it? I got rid of mine for exactly that reason.

If you're getting a custom barrel, you can save A LOT of weight by going with a sporter-weight, or even thinner. Talk to Joe, he'll tell you your options. The bull barrels on 22s make me laugh.

If you want to get all "weight weenie", you can mill out (drill out) a fair bit of the receiver. But it's aluminum, so the actual weight savings is pretty minimal. It's that chassis that you won't be able to get around.
 
alpining said:
That SR22 is a real pig, isn't it. I got rid of mine for exactly that reason.

If you're getting a custom barrel, you can save A LOT of weight by going with a sporter-weight, or even thinner. Talk to Joe, he'll tell you your options. The bull barrels on 22s make me laugh.
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I go bull barrel since i can't find any small length .22 barrel .. Dlask ones are the only i know.. or maybe a Ruger Charger barrel.. i know they fit a 10/22 receiver.

Im still on my SBR case since this morning and the more i think about it.. the more i want to ditch the nordic chassis (or buy an SR22 idea).

1) I would buy a damn Blackhawk Axiom stock but freakin NOBODY got em in stock..
2) I could get a Troy T22 .. pricy yeah, but light (according to the info i gathered.. its 0.5 LB more than the stock 10/22

- Dont want any flip stock.. so that remove a lot of options.
- Would appreciate A LOT having a full picatinny rail on top of it all.. (which axiom dont have) I plan on magpul flipup sights .. no scope.
 
DocBurN said:
I go bull barrel since i can't find any small length .22 barrel .. Dlask ones are the only i know.. or maybe a Ruger Charger barrel.. i know they fit a 10/22 receiver.

Im still on my SBR case since this morning and the more i think about it.. the more i want to ditch the nordic chassis (or buy an SR22 idea).

1) I would buy a damn Blackhawk Axiom stock but freakin NOBODY got em in stock..
2) I could get a Troy T22 .. pricy yeah, but light (according to the info i gathered.. its 0.5 LB more than the stock 10/22
Dont want any flip stock.. so that remove a lot of options.
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Last I heard, Joe Dlask can make sporter-weight barrels. They just don't have the LCF that guys seem to be looking for, so you don't see them stocked anywhere.

The Charger barrel is a good idea, but it's still heavier profile than a custom sporter would be. And probably not any cheaper in the long run, after you take a hit on selling a barrel-less Charger.

Troy chassis... yum!
 
alpining said:
Last I heard, Joe Dlask can make sporter-weight barrels. They just don't have the LCF that guys seem to be looking for, so you don't see them stocked anywhere.

The Charger barrel is a good idea, but it's still heavier profile than a custom sporter would be. And probably not any cheaper in the long run, after you take a hit on selling a barrel-less Charger.

Troy chassis... yum!
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I think i saw green mountain selling only the charger barrel.. unless they stopped (cause i think ruger discontinued the charger.. but i could be wrong)

and the Troy is ###y untill I put my metal saw on it :) makes me puke to pay that much but would be my best options so far to get everything that i want

otherwise i should give another chance to the archangel
 
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You could find an NEA 22 and mate it up with a lightweight AR FF handguard like the Troy TRX. I built mine with a 7" Midwest handguard that was super lightweight with more beef and 3 more rails than the TRX. The NEA chassis' top rail is flush with an AR quad rail unlike the goofy Nordic kit. YHM diamond quad rails are super light too. I know dlask does custom work on their barrels so I'm sure they can do pretty much any spec you want for a reasonable fee.
 
supernova said:
You could find an NEA 22 and mate it up with a lightweight AR FF handguard like the Troy TRX. I built mine with a 7" Midwest handguard that was super lightweight with more beef and 3 more rails than the TRX. The NEA chassis' top rail is flush with an AR quad rail unlike the goofy Nordic kit. YHM diamond quad rails are super light too. I know dlask does custom work on their barrels so I'm sure they can do pretty much any spec you want for a reasonable fee.
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if you have a pic of it.. im really curious about it :)

now forgive my ignorance but.. a Target Barrel is always .750 and match barrel .920 ?
.750 "mid-weight" would be enough for this project..
 
Personally I'd find a 'smith who can chop down a T22 for you and keep it looking nice. with all the offset cooling holes in the hand guard that could be kind of tricky but I think is still doable. You can always approach dlask and ask them to one off a barrel at a specific length.

My current set up is a t22 with a dlask stainless that runs .920 for 5" and steps down to .750. And even with the stock and rail VG. it is still lighter than the OEM Nordic.

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Take off the light and the scope and it ways less then the ruger sr22, even with the stainless barrel.
 
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Typically heavy barrels for the 10/22 are .920, .750" is the SRs contour and the same as gov. profile AR barrels. Here's a pic of the NEA

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9" barrel with a Levang comp, 7" MI quadrail, commercial buffer tube, Fab Defense GLR-16 buttstock blocked so it can't collapse shorter than the third position. Notice the muzzle is about an inch back from the handguard. It wasn't heavy but you knew the heavy barrel was there. I liked it cos it felt like a solid centerfire rifle rather than a rim fire toy.

DocBurN said:
if you have a pic of it.. im really curious about it :)

now forgive my ignorance but.. a Target Barrel is always .750 and match barrel .920 ?
.750 "mid-weight" would be enough for this project..
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Jäger said:
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Haha, nice!

My SR22 was so heavy, it recoiled like a shoulder-mounted staple gun. Honestly, it felt terrible shooting it. It was also heavier than a basic AR carbine. The 10/22 build that replaced it has a much better feel, probably more because of the balance than anything. The sight picture also moves under recoil now, which is what I was looking for. DocBurN is right, though, too, light is right when you're going any serious distance.
 
I have a dlask 8" barrel for sale. $150.
I bought an axiom stock, factory 10/22 and 8" barrel.
If I wanted to keep the barrel, I'd have to pin the stock since colapsed it was 23"
I now have a tactical solutions barrel.
3.5lbs without rds, 3.75lbs with bushnell trs-25
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