That's also the ammo I use most, with my 12.5" & A2.
Building an 11.5" AR, What muzzle device would YOU put on?
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That's also the ammo I use most, with my 12.5" & A2.
I have an LMT MRP with 10.5” barrel and an A2… these pictures are reminiscent of the amount of flash I get using AE223 black box… I have put a few thousand rounds of it through the rifle... this is not typical of other ammo I have used, the AE223 I have is probably the worst… I figure some of use are not talking about the same thing here or you can colour me confused…
The pictures were shamelessly stolen from here, which makes note of how bad the specific ammo was, which in this case was PMC XP193.
http: //w w w.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/10/daniel-zimmerman/pmc-x-tac-5-56-ammo-lights-up-the-night/
The pictures were shamelessly stolen from here, which makes note of how bad the specific ammo was, which in this case was PMC XP193.
http: //w w w.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/10/daniel-zimmerman/pmc-x-tac-5-56-ammo-lights-up-the-night/
Clobbersauras
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^^I don't know what to tell you. AE just doesn't flash that badly all the time in my rifle. Neither does Norc, MFS, or any of the other garbage ammo I've run through it. Sure, I get the odd flash with my A2, but it's not blinding or distracting enough for me to take particular notice of it.
Here's a video I did months ago with my 10.5 and an A2. It's typical of the types of flash I get with AE ammo and my A2. Actually this video gives a good visual representation of what I'm trying to say in this thread, I should have posted it earlier.
[Youtube]i6VAy7pPifo[/Youtube]
As you can see, the flash is not "blinding", I wasn't beaten up by muzzle blast, I didn't annoy other shooters, and most importantly I was able to keep all the rounds in the black. YMMV.
Here's a video I did months ago with my 10.5 and an A2. It's typical of the types of flash I get with AE ammo and my A2. Actually this video gives a good visual representation of what I'm trying to say in this thread, I should have posted it earlier.
[Youtube]i6VAy7pPifo[/Youtube]
As you can see, the flash is not "blinding", I wasn't beaten up by muzzle blast, I didn't annoy other shooters, and most importantly I was able to keep all the rounds in the black. YMMV.
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I am very much a 'to each his own' kind of guy, as at the end of the day sometimes guys need to get out and see what works for them and form their own opinions on kit and processes that may or may not work, and what is optimal.
Whatever; it is what it is and we'll see how that works for them on the firing line.
As such, I was going to keep my mouth shut and let this one go. But.
I have a hard time reading in this post:
Followed by this post where you show us your skill at 10m for shooting you should be able to do at 50m?
Look, I'm all for differing opinions on stuff, but don't come on this site, tell us you've been on a couple of weekend courses and tell the rest of us we are full of sh!t because our experience or views go against the grain of what your instructor taught you....
Whatever; it is what it is and we'll see how that works for them on the firing line.
As such, I was going to keep my mouth shut and let this one go. But.
I have a hard time reading in this post:
Followed by this post where you show us your skill at 10m for shooting you should be able to do at 50m?
Look, I'm all for differing opinions on stuff, but don't come on this site, tell us you've been on a couple of weekend courses and tell the rest of us we are full of sh!t because our experience or views go against the grain of what your instructor taught you....
I don’t really disagree with you; I just thought it was worth clarifying why there seems to be a differing opinion. I find it harder to notice the flash as the shooter, but when standing next to someone else shooting it is rather surprising.
Clobbersauras
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Well, It wasn't my intention to piss anyone off in this thread. Just trying to provide some information on the subject. But I wasn't in a very agreeable mood the other day, so I wrote what I felt.
If that makes me a douche then I'm good with that.
That drill is done at 5 meters.
If I could do that at 50 meters I'd be teaching courses.
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Clobbersauras
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I went old school with my 11.5" AR.
Auggie D.
Very nice!
willywonka519
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You definitely notice a difference?
Would you mind measuring the distance from the "threaded end" of the compensator to the first port? Just looking to see if it the ports would clear my rail.
3/4" sir from back end of threads to the first port hole
Clobbersauras
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Changing the the metrics of that drill would defeat it's purpose. I've yet to see anyone shoot that drill at speed with anything approaching the level of accuracy you are suggesting. Accuracy generally degrades very rapidly after the 2sec threshold is reached as people tend to mess up the second target. If you can shoot it better I would appreciate your instruction and insights.At 5 meters with that speed you should be shooting inside a 3" (preferably 2") circle. Push your targets back.
Well obviously it takes more than just a few weekend courses, don't you know that???!
Also the huge flare coming from it could torch targets. At my last comp everyone commented on it. Now if only I could shoot better ...
If you don't mind the feedback;
The repetition and cadence you display is consistant and methodical. Assuming everything is in the black 8" circular target indicates to me that you have attanded a certain level of comfort shooting the drill within the allotted 2 seconds.
Your internal clock has likely memorized what that 2 seconds 'is' and you have either consciously or subconsciously mapped out where you need to be during each phase of the drill. At some point that comfort level transitions to complacency, where sight picture anywhere on the black is 'good enough'.
If you are happy with status quo, then keep doing what you are doing.
The gun is capable as are you so if you want to get better, you need to push the limits of your drills and change them up. I'm an accuracy nut, so my belief is if you can comfortably do that at 5m in 2 seconds, it is time to work on 10m in 2 seconds, then 15,20,25, etc.
Shoot competitively (it is beneficial and augments drills alone). Get your buddies on the Island together and incorporate your drills into a CQB match at your local range. Talk to Hungry and Tiriaq on the board here about the ORA's CQB course of fire for a start.
We were shooting that drill in CQB matches out to 50m and it can be done (keeping rounds in the down zero).
