Ruger 10/22 Takedown Peep Sights...which one?

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Hi guys, I just bought my son a Ruger 10/22 Takedown, and he'd like to try a peep sight on it and see how he shoots with it,
instead of going straight to a scope...so I'm looking at three of them. The Williams peep sight mounts on the back of the receiver,
and comes with a higher front fibre optic sight. The Tech Sight TSR 100/200 looks more like an M-1 set-up, the peep mounts on
the receiver and has wings to protect the aperture sight, and comes with a front pin sight that's also protected by two wings on
the side. It looks more robust than the Williams. The third option is the Skinner peep sight which mounts on the barrel in place
of the rear sight, and then a plate comes back to the back edge of the barrel where the aperture is mounted. They say that their
peep sight never loses zero because it's mounted on the barrel of the Takedown, and you can use the factory front sight.
Is that valid? The receiver of the Takedown is tapped for mounting a scope, and I haven't heard anything about scopes losing
zero from the barrel being removed and then put back on. I like the Skinner peep sight for it's use of the Ruger front sight and
that it leaves the receiver clean for a possible scope mount in future, you can see them at skinnersights.com, but I've heard that
peep sights work best when they're close to your eye, like the Tech Sight peep is. Any of you use one of these or have an opinion?
Thanks for the help!
 
I have several Skinner sights but not the barrel mount. Skinner sells a set for the 10/22 so I'm not sure if it works with the factory front but they're easy to swap. Skinner makes very nice sights well worth the money. Its true peep sights work a lot better closer to your eye than open sights but mounting them a little farther away doesn't hurt. You'll need a slightly smaller aperture the farther away they are. I use a .125" with a lo pro mounted in the rearmost scope bolt hole with a Skinner .450" brass front blade. Factory front is .400" and was too low. The barrel mount is .400" from bottom of dovetail to center of aperture at its lowest setting so you can measure your OE rear sight to see if it'll work.
 
Thanks Supernova, it sounds like the Skinner Peep Sight is a quality piece, and it sounds like it'll work just fine with the aperture
at the back edge of the barrel, which was my concern. I'd rather go with that and leave the top of the receiver clean, for looks
and in future if we mount a scope, we can do it on rings with a see-through space below them- so we can use the peep sights if
the scope gets hit and knocked out of alignment.
 
Anyone else have any experience with peep sights? How close they are to your eye, size of the aperture, etc, if you're happy with them?
Any thoughts would be appreciated... :)
 
I know you want to hear from others too but Ive also used the tech sights and theyre quite nice for the money. Probably similar in price to Skinner front and rear sights. They use an AR NM front post and either an A2 rear aperture or their elevation adjustable rear. Theyre nice little sights for the money and give a stock 10/22 an M1 carbine look with a great sight picture.
 
supernova said:
I know you want to hear from others too but Ive also used the tech sights and theyre quite nice for the money. Probably similar in price to Skinner front and rear sights. They use an AR NM front post and either an A2 rear aperture or their elevation adjustable rear. Theyre nice little sights for the money and give a stock 10/22 an M1 carbine look with a great sight picture.
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Supernova, my main question is will the Skinner peep sight work well looking at it from some inches away, mounted at the back of the barrel,
or will it suck versus the Tech Sight mounted at the back of the receiver? A guy with a scoped Takedown on Hunting BC told me that his scoped
10/22 wouldn't shoot decent groups unless he had the snug/cinch ring on the Takedown at max tightness, so he could barely get the barrel on.
Even one click looser and the groups went into the toilet. So it sounds like the Skinner sight has an advantage being mounted on the barrel, but
will it work anywhere near as well as the Tech Sight with it's longer sighting plane and closeness to the shooter's eye? If it were a standard 10/22
I'd most likely go with the Tech Sight...
 
hical.ca said:
We stock both the williams peep, http://www.hical.ca/apps/webstore/products/show/3809609
& the Tech peep, http://www.hical.ca/apps/webstore/products/show/2608577
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I looked at the Tech Sight TSR200 on your site, thank you, that's the one I'd get if I go with a receiver mounted sight. Can you either post on
here or PM me as to whether you've had any feedback from owners of the Takedown 10/22? I know I'd definitely go with the Tech Sight if it was
a fixed standard 10/22, but I'm just wondering about whether it'll hold zero well with the barrel coming off and being put back on, etc...
 
pisces-guy said:
I looked at the Tech Sight TSR200 on your site, thank you, that's the one I'd get if I go with a receiver mounted sight. Can you either post on
here or PM me as to whether you've had any feedback from owners of the Takedown 10/22? I know I'd definitely go with the Tech Sight if it was
a fixed standard 10/22, but I'm just wondering about whether it'll hold zero well with the barrel coming off and being put back on, etc...
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I've got them on my takedown, and I'm happy with them. You might want to get the adjustment tool as well. In my view they are good out to 50 yds in reasonable light.
 
Although mounting the aperture farther away does not help it is still an improvement over open sights. The big difference is the shorter sight radius though this is not a big deal on a plinking .22 and certainly not a step back from the OE sights. Now the Skinner as you know pushes the aperture further back than the OE rear sight and is only 6 or so inches shorter than a reciever mounted peep. The improvement will be very noticeable. I would suggest an aperture in the .150"+ range for plinking inside 100 yds. I use a .125" on mine and find it to be perfect. Again I have a lo pro mounted in the reciever.

pisces-guy said:
Supernova, my main question is will the Skinner peep sight work well looking at it from some inches away, mounted at the back of the barrel,
or will it suck versus the Tech Sight mounted at the back of the receiver? A guy with a scoped Takedown on Hunting BC told me that his scoped
10/22 wouldn't shoot decent groups unless he had the snug/cinch ring on the Takedown at max tightness, so he could barely get the barrel on.
Even one click looser and the groups went into the toilet. So it sounds like the Skinner sight has an advantage being mounted on the barrel, but
will it work anywhere near as well as the Tech Sight with it's longer sighting plane and closeness to the shooter's eye? If it were a standard 10/22
I'd most likely go with the Tech Sight...
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Tom Morrison said:
I've got them on my takedown, and I'm happy with them. You might want to get the adjustment tool as well. In my view they are good out to 50 yds in reasonable light.
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Hey Tom, a guy I know says his scoped Takedown won't group decently unless the snug/cinch ring is on max tight, so tight it's hard to put the barrel on.
Are you finding you're having to do the same thing with your peep sight on the receiver? Thanks...
 
supernova said:
Although mounting the aperture farther away does not help it is still an improvement over open sights. The big difference is the shorter sight radius though this is not a big deal on a plinking .22 and certainly not a step back from the OE sights. Now the Skinner as you know pushes the aperture further back than the OE rear sight and is only 6 or so inches shorter than a reciever mounted peep. The improvement will be very noticeable. I would suggest an aperture in the .150"+ range for plinking inside 100 yds. I use a .125" on mine and find it to be perfect. Again I have a lo pro mounted in the reciever.
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Thanks Supernova, a gunsmith here in BC also said basically what you're saying, that the peep being a bit further away isn't a big deal, and
in the case of the Takedown is a better option for holding zero. A guy on HBC with a scope on his Takedown said that unless the snug ring is
on max tight, so it's hard to get the barrel on, his gun won't group worth beans. Even one click looser and the groups suck. I'm thinking the
Skinner is the way to go. I sent an email to Skinner and I'll post what Andy says. He ships the peep sight for the Takedown with a .125" aperture.
 
pisces-guy said:
Hey Tom, a guy I know says his scoped Takedown won't group decently unless the snug/cinch ring is on max tight, so tight it's hard to put the barrel on.
Are you finding you're having to do the same thing with your peep sight on the receiver? Thanks...
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I guess my question would be what's a decent group with a 10/22. For me with open sites, I'm happy if I can hit a beer can @ 50 yds. I think it's good to keep it as tight as is practical. For me my takedown is a pinker/utility gun. If I want to shoot farther and for accuracy, I'll use my Sako. I think ammo choice is important as well. Using SK+ tightened up my group over Federal gold medal quite noticeably.

Cheers.
 
Tom Morrison said:
I guess my question would be what's a decent group with a 10/22. For me with open sites, I'm happy if I can hit a beer can @ 50 yds. I think it's good to keep it as tight as is practical. For me my takedown is a pinker/utility gun. If I want to shoot farther and for accuracy, I'll use my Sako. I think ammo choice is important as well. Using SK+ tightened up my group over Federal gold medal quite noticeably.

Thanks Tom, for sure my son's Takedown is going to be a plinker/utility/grouse & rabbit gun...for turkey hunting and 100/200 yard shoots he'll use his
.17HMR Savage 93 bolt action with bull barrel. Thanks for the tip on the SK+ ammo, did you try the CCI Velocitors at all? I'm hearing that the peep
being at the back of the barrel isn't a huge deal, and it's way better than the factory open sight, as well as not being thrown off if the barrel ring is looser
or tighter...so I think we're going with the Skinner barrel mounted peep sight...
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pisces-guy said:
Thanks Tom, for sure my son's Takedown is going to be a plinker/utility/grouse & rabbit gun...for turkey hunting and 100/200 yard shoots he'll use his
.17HMR Savage 93 bolt action with bull barrel. Thanks for the tip on the SK+ ammo, did you try the CCI Velocitors at all? I'm hearing that the peep
being at the back of the barrel isn't a huge deal, and it's way better than the factory open sight, as well as not being thrown off if the barrel ring is looser
or tighter...so I think we're going with the Skinner barrel mounted peep sight...
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Haven't tried velocitors. As you say, the skinner being on the barrel should eliminate any error from the barrel having some play in it. The uses you've outlined are in my view exactly what the takedown was made for. Cheers.
 
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